I just sold my Adventure 16 because of weight issues and looking for something a little smaller I can solo when I want to.
I can't help but notice the trend torwards kayaks...that seems to be the popular item nowadays. Anyway, I need a few opinions and pros and cons from you guys, and girls.
Here's my scenario-
1) I'm 5'10" 190. My wife is 5'8" 120. My 12 yr old daughter is 5' 110. I also have a 2 yr old son. Most of the paddling in the next couple of years will probably just be my daughter and myself. Should I look into 2 solo kayaks instead of a Mad River Reflection?
2) Paddling will only be on calm lakes and slow bayous...no whitewater or anything like that. Overall stability of a kayak compared to a canoe...can you even compare the two? I've never tried a kayak yet, but plan to soon.
3) Entering and exiting water in a kayak. Is it easier or harder than a canoe...or just a different technique?
4)Sit on top kayak, or cockpick? Is one more stable and comfortable than the other?
5)Would a tandem kayak make more sense than two solos?
These are just a few points I'm thinking about and would just like to get general opinions.
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Posted by: radiomix on Jan-20-13 12:18 PM (EST)
Is always both.
Before you buy anything...|
Posted by: Celia on Jan-20-13 1:01 PM (EST)
Get the rest of your family and yourself into boats (canoes and kayaks) on demo days to see what they like. If you want to jump start that, see if there are pool sessions around you that you can go to and get the basics of how to handle a kayak and recovery from a capsize. The latter is the best way to find out what features you need in a kayak if you do go that way. Handling a flooded rec boat on the water without any perimeter lines is a fast wake up call for most people on what they need.
Celia is right - but|
Posted by: rpg51 on Jan-20-13 5:14 PM (EST)
sometimes we all take chances making these decisions because we don't have the time or the access to do the right experimenting before we make a purchase.
You have a lot of good options|
Posted by: bartc on Jan-20-13 6:48 PM (EST)
Trying them out for real is the best bet, but if you can't, consider these:
How about an inflatable?|
Posted by: old_user on Jan-20-13 7:07 PM (EST)
I'm not sure how the others on this board feel, but an inflatable kayak may be a good choice for you.
kayak or canoe|
Posted by: kevinj on Jan-20-13 8:06 PM (EST)
Try them all find out what is comfortable for you. Kids really enjoy the Independence of a kayak. I solo canoe most of the time now, most of the people I paddle with use kayaks.
Posted by: rblturtle on Jan-21-13 8:11 AM (EST)
This can be a big topic and has been much discussed. When I first started paddling in my local group,I was often the lone solo canoer. Now the ratio is reversed. One of the biggest factors for us is getting in and out. We usually launch at a dock,steep bank or rock,seldom a gentle shelving beach that is kayak friendly. It is dificult to enter and exit a kayak or sit on the bottom canoe in these circumstances. From a dock it's even worse. Going from sitting on the bottom with feet in front of you into or off of something higher than you is a real challenge in a kayak or sit on the bottom canoe. What are most of your entrys/exite like?
Posted by: magooch on Jan-21-13 9:50 AM (EST)
All people & all situations different|
Posted by: guideboatguy on Jan-21-13 10:31 AM (EST)
options for lightness|
Posted by: willowleaf on Jan-21-13 11:06 AM (EST)
If you liked the Adventure other than the weight (we have one too and I know what you mean!) you might want to investigate skin on frame canoes. Just google the term "skin on frame canoe" and you will get a lot of links including one for Pakboat who makes some really nice folding aluminum frame canoes that are a great deal lighter to haul, perform well and can be configured for different numbers of paddlers. They also make folding kayaks in a range of sizes, most of which have removeable decks so they can be used both as an open boat and a decked boat.
Posted by: timothy585 on Jan-21-13 6:59 PM (EST)
For all the replies. Lots of good advice. I am still kinda leaning towards a mid-size, stable canoe, but I just wanted other opinions. For my needs...casual, leasurely paddling, a canoe might be more convenient for family use.
Just to throw a monkey wrench...|
Posted by: Al_A on Jan-21-13 10:57 PM (EST)
into what you're thinking...
Posted by: rival51 on Jan-21-13 11:17 PM (EST)
Does your daughter enjoy being out on the water? If so, give some consideration to a nice light kayak in the 12 - 14' range for her or for your wife. And then also look for a mid-sized canoe that can go both as a tandem or a solo. Not perfect either way, but you could get out as a family with one in the kayak and three in the canoe - until your boy needs to paddle his own craft.
Flexible approach sounds best|
Posted by: booztalkin on Jan-22-13 8:55 AM (EST)
It will be wonderful if your daughter develops a love off paddling. IMO, some of the nicest kids I have met have been paddlers. However, she's 12. When my daughter turned 12 I recall a discussion telling her she'd be a teen ager soon and she wouldn't want to hang out with Dad anymore. She told me it already happened!
Kayak or canoe|
Posted by: harry0244 on Jan-22-13 9:25 PM (EST)
How much room do you have, and what can you afford? I currently have two kayaks, a mid length touring boat and a sea kayak, but I plan to add a tandem canoe to the fleet. For camping and portaging (especially portaging), a canoe beats a kayak so much that it is not a contest. For big water, like the great lakes or salt water, a sea kayak excels.
For your part of the world ,a couple of |
Posted by: string on Jan-22-13 11:10 PM (EST)
SOT are ideal. Look at Academy. There are some nice ones for < $500.
Kayaks are sexy|
Posted by: beaverjack on Jan-23-13 9:54 PM (EST)
...but like sex, you age out of it. They're heavy as all get go, but if you're doing a day paddle without a load, they're easier to control. A canoe can do it all, but not much fun in the wind, or empty. A beginner will prefer a kayak because they're easy. But you'll top out quick and get bored. Then it will hang on your garage ceiling and collect dust and wasp nests. If a wasp stings you, it could easily get infected and you'll lose an appendage. So do yourself a favor - don't lose an appendage. Buy a canoe.
I've paddled both canoes and kayaks|
Posted by: string on Jan-23-13 11:14 PM (EST)
for years. Still have 3 kayaks.
Some answers, but just my opinion|
Posted by: Jackl on Jan-24-13 10:21 AM (EST)