Building a triple.
Posted by: old_user on Jan-19-13 3:31 AM (EST) Category: Kayaks
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New to the board. I'm sure this question has been asked, but I couldn't find with the search engine.
I'm about to move back to Canada after ten years. I already have an inflatable Sea Eagle Fast Track which I love. But, recently, I've been researching stitch and glue and strip kayaks. I'd like to build a sea kayak and start doing some excursions with my two boys age 8 and 5.
Obviously, a triple kayak is the best choice, but I don't really know which one I should build. I'm pretty good with my hands, so I don't think building will be much of a problem if I get buy some plans.
I love the look and design of cedar strip kayaks, but I can't find any triples. The only triples I've come across are the Chesapeak and the Osprey --which are both nice.
Hopefully you can answer a few of my questions...
So, here are my questions:
Are there designs for a triple strip Kayak?
What is a better kayak, strip, or stitch and glue?
What is better, the Osprey or the Chesapeak?
Are there any other plans that you would recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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Do you need a kayak.?|
Posted by: LeeG on Jan-19-13 9:57 PM (EST)
Posted by: carldelo on Jan-19-13 10:35 PM (EST)
Posted by: old_user on Jan-20-13 12:47 AM (EST)
Posted by: LeeG on Jan-20-13 12:01 PM (EST)
Without another adult sized motor your ability to control a 21'x30" boat in wind and waves isn't a whole lot better than a canoe but with another adult you definitely will be able to go places.
Posted by: old_user on Jan-21-13 3:28 AM (EST)
Thanks so much. Great advice. I'm hoping the boys fill out in a couple of years and the old fella can enjoy the middle.
Posted by: LeeG on Jan-21-13 10:28 AM (EST)
Posted by: carldelo on Jan-20-13 10:11 PM (EST)
Sounds like you know what you want. I did a quick search at kayakforum and came up with this thread from someone looking to add a strip deck to an Osprey triple, not a bad idea:
Question re the "in case" situation|
Posted by: Celia on Jan-21-13 9:01 AM (EST)
Thinking alike, two boats|
Posted by: LeeG on Jan-21-13 10:29 AM (EST)
I gotta lot to learn|
Posted by: old_user on Jan-21-13 6:44 PM (EST)
Thanks Celia. After reading your post, I realise I have a lot to learn. Initially, I would stick to the shoreline until the boys gain the ability to handle the rougher water. I guess the first couple of years will be quite difficult for me being the engine.
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Posted by: LeeG on Jan-21-13 9:45 PM (EST)
Or whatever this years model is is a nice cheap light plastic kayak for a kid, then build that Shearwater double. I used to tow the girls around a lot.
I had a cheasapeake triple|
Posted by: nickjc on Jan-21-13 12:30 PM (EST)
Seriously you cut it up?|
Posted by: LeeG on Jan-21-13 5:04 PM (EST)
I never had one out in substantial waves. What struck me about the Kulzychi designed double is that it was simply a scaled up Chesapeake 17. The Ch 17 was a high volume kayak and the Ch Tandem was very high volume. The Chesapeakes were an evolution from the highly rockered low volume end Cape Charles and Patuxents that would bow bury in 12" waves. The Patuxent 17 I made in '94 buried to the coaming in 18" waves.
Posted by: old_user on Jan-21-13 6:53 PM (EST)
That's some pretty technical stuff there Lee. At this point, I would want to stick to the plans that I buy... at least until I get a feel for the build itself.
They're all safe|
Posted by: LeeG on Jan-21-13 7:20 PM (EST)
Posted by: rival51 on Jan-21-13 11:01 PM (EST)
I second the idea of a Pygmy 13 for the boys. My daughter & I built one for her when she was 8. At 9 the next summer she was good with it on Michigan moving water. She could make it move too. No problem keeping up. She's out grown that one now and has a One Ocean Storm LT. (The Osprey 13 is looking for a good home). The Pygmy's are also good for instant gratification. both of the ones that I have built were floatable in two months and finished about 6 weeks later. The strip boat took nearly 11 month from forms to finished.
Posted by: carldelo on Jan-21-13 7:21 PM (EST)
I assume you've read the reviews of the Osprey triple here - it sounds like people like it a lot. Of course most reviews are a 9 or 10, so must be taken with a grain of salt.
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Posted by: LeeG on Jan-21-13 8:17 PM (EST)
best describes a Chesapeake. They can be paddled to a high cruising speed while carrying a ton of stuff. Kind of like a freighter. But not designed from a paddlers experience in wind and waves.