Planning on paddling my kayak on Huron River next weekend. Temperature 35 degrees. Should I wear neoprene gloves or pogies?
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Gloves or both|
Posted by: Kocho on Jan-12-13 9:28 PM (EST)
If you like piggies, go for them. But pack some gloves, should you lose your paddle with the piggiies on it or need to spend time in the water...
Both better unless...|
Posted by: Celia on Jan-13-13 7:58 AM (EST)
your neo gloves are something like diver's dry gloves or the super-warm NRS gloves. If you are talking 2mm neoprene or the basic hydroskin gloves, that is not warm enough for 35 degree water. You hands will be icicles.
Bring both and more|
Posted by: Jaybabina on Jan-13-13 8:56 AM (EST)
and wear what you need.
i use both|
Posted by: svenkalmar on Jan-13-13 9:12 AM (EST)
but prefer my ursuit neoprene gloves. they are awesome. for me. i dont like pogies for rough weather, since i change grip a lot, but they are nice for touring.keeping the head and the rest warm is important for warm hands.
Having paddled the Huron many times|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Jan-13-13 9:54 PM (EST)
in all kinds of conditions I would say you would not need either, even at that temperature. I know that people differ in their cold tolerance but the Huron is a class 1 river with one class 2 rapid at the end of the usual run. Having said that, gloves are a pita for river paddling. Pogies are warmer and give you a less tiring grip on the paddle shaft. If you really need to wear something go with Pogies.
Gloves a PITA for river paddling?|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jan-13-13 9:57 PM (EST)
Why is that?
Why that is|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Jan-16-13 10:13 PM (EST)
Gloves effectively increase the size of the paddle shaft and the result is hand fatigue. Gloves are not as warm as Pogies. In fact, Pogies can be too warm at times. Gloves interfere with your ability to do some tasks and removing your gloves in order to do something is often problematic.
I use neoprene gloves all the time|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jan-16-13 10:41 PM (EST)
with no issues for both kayaking and canoeing.
Posted by: Celia on Jan-18-13 11:16 AM (EST)
For kayaking, I have far more fatigue without gloves and wear them right through warmer weather. The only gloves I have to get off to do anything are, once in a while, the winter diving dry gloves because they are quite thick. But most times I don't have to take gloves off to do things, and I also got a small shaft when I went to the paddle I use the most. I also grip pretty loosely with opening my hand at each stroke, to the point that I have to remember to tighten up the grip a little in messier stuff.
I've been using gloves only|
Posted by: Kocho on Jan-16-13 8:30 PM (EST)
For all my cold weather paddling, mainly white water and some flat water. No issues. The Glacier Gloves I use keep their shape so there is no effort to hold the paddle, I can do what I need to do with them on (e.g., put/remove spray skirt, helmet, nose/ear plugs, drink water, blow my nose ...).
I have glacier gloves|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Jan-16-13 10:16 PM (EST)
And I found doing the list of things you give difficult if not impossible. I guess this is a YMMV situation.
I can't say it's as easy as without|
Posted by: Kocho on Jan-17-13 9:55 AM (EST)
but it still seems to work with gloves on. My hands get cold easy and I can't imagine being comfortable enough without gloves for more than a minute or two in really cold water. I really need to try poggies one of these days to see how they work, but somehow I suspect I will be colder in them than ideal without some sort of thin glove...
my 2 cents worth .....|
Posted by: trout on Jan-14-13 11:26 AM (EST)
..I have always read that your better off with gloves.....if u lose the paddle with pogies attached ...you have nothing to keep the hands warm !! Cold, frigid finger's don't grip well. I also 2nd the opinion that w/ gloves U can change your hand position on the paddle shaft, to suit the need. For instance .. a very wide paddle sweep by gripping the very end of the blade, to turn.
mitten are most effective|
Posted by: magooch on Jan-14-13 11:43 AM (EST)
I don't do a lot of paddling when the temperature gets down to freezing, but I have found that a nice pare of mittens work much better than gloves. However, I have found that for my cold weather paddling, a pair of waterproof Thinsulate gloves work very well and they are less than $10. I've also found that if the sun is shining and there is little wind, my hands stay warmer with no gloves at all on a black carbon, or glass shaft. That of course only applies to above freezing temperatures.
my vote for pogies vs mittens|
Posted by: FrankNC on Jan-14-13 12:00 PM (EST)
Most pogies I've used can be set to slide along the paddle shaft easily. This works for me on all my paddles except for my Greenland Paddle. The barely pogies fit around it, but do not slide. OK for just paddling but if you want tpo slide your grip you must let go first.
Pogies with light gloves...|
Posted by: Celia on Jan-14-13 4:06 PM (EST)
Just saw this post again and had the thought that, if you are not a regular winter paddler, the investment in true winter gloves may be overkill. But the combination of lighter weight gloves and a pogie can get you comfortably into chillier stuff without having to invest in a level of either that could only be used a couple of months a year.
you can use both simultaneously-|
Posted by: tdaniel on Jan-14-13 11:22 PM (EST)
I have some loose fitting neoprene pogies that I wear with neoprene gloves going inside them. I really like the warmth of pogies but since I paddle streams with a lot wood, having your hands free is often a must. I just push the pogies into the center on the paddle shaft when I'm not using them.
Love those pogies|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Jan-15-13 12:01 AM (EST)
Practice with pogies and gloves|
Posted by: davemcadoo on Jan-16-13 3:36 PM (EST)
Last time I swam it was to grab a water bottle from bottom of boat. I lifted up on the paddle while holding the water bottle. May I please suggest you ask someone to help stabilize you whan making changes, or hold unto a dock. PLEASE DRESS TO SWIM A fuzzy rubber farmer jane or john is better than nothing. You are concerned about your hands but what about your body?
Posted by: Celia on Jan-17-13 10:05 AM (EST)
I don't know anyone who hasn't wandered into the water with their relief zipper open at least once. It took me two times to really learn the lesson. (I use a lowered pzip.)
Posted by: willi_h2o on Jan-17-13 10:13 AM (EST)
Posted by: Kudzu on Jan-16-13 4:26 PM (EST)
Level Six mittens.
Did yer say....|
Posted by: FatElmo on Jan-18-13 7:30 PM (EST)
Posted by: dajarr on Jan-17-13 1:55 PM (EST)
I prefer pogies. I like my hands on the paddle, and the pogies keep my hands plenty warm. On the other hand (so to speak), I have a friend that wears gloves under her pogies. I was recently with a larger group, and some of us had pogies, some neoprene gloves of different thicknesses, some with fingerless gloves, and some were bare handed. You might try different things and see what works best for you.
Either, or both|
Posted by: desertdave on Jan-17-13 2:30 PM (EST)
I like fingerless gloves. In the cold water I wear the neo ones, NRS Guide Glove. My girlfriend always has cold finger, she often wears Glacier Gloves.
survey says: personal preference|
Posted by: bignate on Jan-17-13 6:43 PM (EST)
I think the thread indicates that there's no clear consensus, other than try and find out which you prefer and why. However, I do like the idea of always having a good set of gloves as a backup regardless in case your hands get really cold or you end up in the water for any legnth of time.
Posted by: angstrom on Jan-18-13 10:26 AM (EST)
I'd go with light gloves & pogies.