Happy New Year!
Iím looking for advice on lighter weight 14-15 foot kayaks mainly due to life complications. Background: I am 5í8Ē, 170lbs, paddled for 3 years in a Tsunami 125. Spring 2012 bought a Pyranha Fusion for small rivers/large creeks.
The Bottom Line: looking for 14-15 foot boat that weighs fewer than 50 lbs that is considered on the nimble side for that length. For paddling large rivers and lakes, mostly day tripping up to 20 miles or so. Ideally costs less than $2k. Really canít spend more than $3K. Wonít buy without test paddling. Thoughts on the Hurricane Tampico and/or Perception Tribute? Anything else I should look at, either used/new?
The Gory Details: Iíve become increasingly frustrated with the Tsunamiís barge like (to me) paddling qualities. I know I could stand to work on my paddling technique, especially edging: that was the plan for summer 2012. Then a couple of discs in my neck popped out in May and I lost the entire season. My docs have cleared me to start paddling next summer, but Iím not to lift weight over 40 lbs. I figure I can fudge this a bit to about 46-48 lbs or so for a kayak...if Iím smart about it. I was pretty strong before and know how to lift weight.
I am now looking to sell the Tsunami and get a sub 50 lb. 14-15 footer for larger rivers and lakes (I live in southern Wisconsin). Ideally it would be (for this length) on the more nimble side. And for sure work on my paddling technique. I load by myself onto a Thule Slipstream, so I really do need to pay attention to weight. (Iíll get something like a Hullavator if I need to, but the Slipstream works really well for me) Iíd prefer to stay around or under $2k, though if I fell in love I could maybe spend up to $3k. (retirement fund be damned...) Thatís the rub, I think.
Local paddle shop recommended I test the Hurricane Tampico and the Perception Tribute come spring. (gave them $2k limit) Any other recommendations? Definitely will buy used if I can get in the thing and test.
If you've managed to read this far, thanks much!
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check out pygmy|
Posted by: nickjc on Jan-02-13 4:27 PM (EST)
Pygmy makes some nice small boat kits, if you have the space and ability to do some building.
Posted by: VK1NF on Jan-02-13 4:54 PM (EST)
...like the Pygmy boats, are excellent choices - not at all hard to build, very tough and light, and they cost a fraction of the price of fiberglass or kevlar boats.
Posted by: fitchm on Jan-02-13 5:22 PM (EST)
Thanks for the kit ideas! I've been thinking about trying one for other reasons: despite my lack of skill with anything adhesive, I enjoy basic woodworking. Hadn't made the connection with lightweight--could be great.
Posted by: theluckyone17 on Jan-03-13 11:05 PM (EST)
You might want to take a look at a fuselage style skin on frame. They don't require much in the way of wood working, and there's a million and a half ways of putting 'em together. Yostwerks.com has some good designs, pics, and step by step instructions. The site was put together by an engineer, though, so it's recommended to read through all of the site, even if you're only building a non-folding kayak.
Need a kayak?|
Posted by: kayamedic on Jan-02-13 5:02 PM (EST)
PlacidBoatworks makes a couple of pack canoes that come in the weight range of 20-25 lbs.
Posted by: fitchm on Jan-02-13 5:24 PM (EST)
You've given me a lot to think about! I'm definitely open to a canoe, but it does need to have a good back support and possibly footrests. I'll know more about that once I get back on the water and see what's working. I will check out Placid Boats for sure. Thanks!
they have top of the line backbands|
Posted by: kayamedic on Jan-02-13 6:54 PM (EST)
and of course adjustable footpegs.
Not Sure of the Weight|
Posted by: Kudzu on Jan-02-13 5:27 PM (EST)
but the Dagger Alchemy is 14 ft and nimble. Put it on your list of ones to try. I only lift one end at a time car-topping and un-car-topping. After that I carry it at waist level. Less stress.
Posted by: medawgone on Jan-02-13 5:50 PM (EST)
Posted by: shiraz627 on Jan-02-13 6:31 PM (EST)
My Swift Saranac 14 tips the scales at 36lbs with a skeg. I use the boat for everything from the Adirondacks to the Atlantic.
Posted by: B.inboats on Jan-02-13 9:29 PM (EST)
Not sure of the exact poundage, but you'd be over 50 if it was even damp.
If the disk problems are in your neck, |
Posted by: ezwater on Jan-02-13 6:48 PM (EST)
why are the docs limiting you to 40# lifting? Docs are likely to be ignorant of the mechanics of lifting, even if they understand stresses on disks.
neck and lifting|
Posted by: fitchm on Jan-02-13 10:14 PM (EST)
g2d, it may be because the problem discs are the last two before the back starts, perhaps because they were bumping up against my spinal cord, not entirely sure. I also lost all functionality in my right tricep, though that's slowly coming back. Fair question. I'll be exploring my limits this summer...
Posted by: carldelo on Jan-02-13 7:10 PM (EST)
Posted by: ret603 on Jan-02-13 7:52 PM (EST)
More build options|
Posted by: fitchm on Jan-02-13 10:44 PM (EST)
Posted by: fitchm on Jan-02-13 10:19 PM (EST)
Thanks everyone for the awesome suggestions and great questions. I have a lot of research to do!
Let us know how it works for you|
Posted by: kayamedic on Jan-02-13 10:27 PM (EST)
every paddler has their own journey and trip log.
Motivation during PT|
Posted by: ret603 on Jan-03-13 9:49 AM (EST)
I'll second that.|
Posted by: magooch on Jan-03-13 10:36 AM (EST)
Feathercraft Kahuna or Wisper|
Posted by: tsunamichuck1 on Jan-03-13 10:18 AM (EST)
buy used and you get a boat you can travel the world with.
Posted by: Bill_Stevenson on Jan-03-13 10:44 AM (EST)
Add the Impex to your list. It is a sleek, lovely small kayak. I am with Chuck, though, and would personally prefer a folding kayak. If you would consider a folder add the Feathercraft Kurrent and the Long Haul UTE to your list of prospects. Generally Feathercrafts are lighter in weight, nicer to paddle, easier to carry, but more time consuming to assemble; Long Hauls (and the very similar Kleppers) are heavier (although the UTE meets your spec), more rugged, and much quicker to assemble. Folding kayaks are an acquired taste, but once acquired, their appeal transcends any rigid boat.
Hurricane Tampico 140|
Posted by: kayakjak on Jan-03-13 11:44 AM (EST)
Impex Sea Breeze?|
Posted by: kayak_bob on Jan-04-13 10:03 AM (EST)
Maybe also consider an Impex Sea Breeze
Posted by: WaterMark on Jan-03-13 12:46 PM (EST)
Posted by: eddylinekayaks on Jan-03-13 12:55 PM (EST)
Posted by: willowleaf on Jan-03-13 5:00 PM (EST)
My two favorite kayaks (in a sequentially owned fleet of more than a dozen) are both fairly light and nimble and around 14-15 feet. One is a 37 lb Feathercraft Wisper folder (bought used for $2200) and the other a hard shell P & H Venture Easky LV (46 lbs and under $1200 new). We also have a couple of Pakboat folders and they are coming out with a new model of their XT kayak around that size this year which is intriguing and in your spec range. Probably well under $2000.
Posted by: Northyak on Jan-08-13 12:08 PM (EST)
Current Designs Squamish might fit you well, if you like a tighter fit. It is ~$1300, just over 15 foot, skeggy, and versatile. I have squeezed into one, and it felt lighter than the 54 pounds listed on the website.
Contact me when the ice melts in |
Posted by: Yanoer on Jan-08-13 2:29 PM (EST)
central IL. I have one that might work for you, but it's right at 50 lbs and is kevlar.
Posted by: fitchm on Jan-09-13 11:29 AM (EST)
My restriction to 15' is indeed somewhat artificial. In the little bit of research I did before posting it seemed to hit a sweet spot between weight and price.
I can identify with being out of|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jan-09-13 12:55 PM (EST)
14' Petrel Play|
Posted by: ret603 on Jan-11-13 10:11 AM (EST)
I'm starting the construction of a stitch and glue "Petrel Play" kayak tomorrow in a class with the designer, Nick Schade of Guillemot kayaks.
Posted by: Fitchm on Jan-11-13 10:24 PM (EST)
I hope the class is great--please do post an update! I'll be hitting their booth at Canoecopia.
less than 50 lbs|
Posted by: Teri on Jan-13-13 10:15 AM (EST)
Lincoln Canoe and Kayak|
Posted by: bruce on Jan-14-13 9:55 AM (EST)
Are they still around?
They were last week|
Posted by: kayamedic on Jan-14-13 10:00 AM (EST)
when I went to their store in Freeport.
Posted by: CD1 on Jan-19-13 12:06 AM (EST)