Posted by: magooch on Jan-02-13 11:33 AM (EST) Category: unassigned
I thought about adding this to the trailer/roof rack post, but it probably would be lost in the fray. Anyway, I happened to see a car with a rack that might, or might not have been used for transporting kayaks, or canoes that was unique from any other that I have seen. I'm a trailer guy myself, so I have not paid that much attention to roof racks. The one in question consisted of two crossbars attached to the car roof and then a long square aluminum beam with a couple of saddles on it attached to the crossbars. It caught my attention because it seemed to me that it answered the issue of saddle spread where most auto roofs are relatively short compared to boat length. The beam allowed the saddles to be placed anywhere and would even allow for more than two saddles for optimum support. With that ability to spread the saddles and have more than just two, it also seemed to me that it would lessen the advantage of placing the boat on edge--as in J-hooks. Just for curiosity, has anyone seen, or know of such a rack.
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those are common for race boats|
Posted by: nickjc on Jan-02-13 12:03 PM (EST)
In seattle I see lots of those used for racing boats and rowing shells on shorter vehicles. Several of my surfski buddies use that system. Some are store bought others are home made from aluminum square tube and some bolts.
Made one for my single scull back in '65|
Posted by: ezwater on Jan-02-13 12:34 PM (EST)
to move it from Boston to Philly. The car in question was a rented Chevy station wagon, so the spacing on the supporting crossbars was generous.
Not many bulkheads < 40" apart.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jan-03-13 12:33 AM (EST)
My load bars are only 40" apart.
I tend to forget that my plastic decked|
Posted by: ezwater on Jan-03-13 7:40 AM (EST)
boats have interior longitudinal walls. My Necky didn't have one, but I custom cut one that I shove in for travel purposes, to prevent hull denting on the racks.
The EZ-Vee from Kayak Pro|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Jan-02-13 1:41 PM (EST)
I wondered if it might be for something |
Posted by: magooch on Jan-02-13 3:39 PM (EST)
Yeah, I thought maybe the rack looked like it would fit something like a rowing hull--more so than a kayak with the type of saddles it had. With the right kind of saddles though, it would be good for extra long kayaks on short roofs. A telescoping beam would make it even more adaptable.
Posted by: carldelo on Jan-02-13 7:02 PM (EST)
The Kayakpro EZ-Vee works extremely well for kayaks. The bar doesn't telescope, but the saddles can be moved, so same difference. The saddles fit the profile of my kayaks well, a couple of tourers, an SOF and a Struer. I do add pipe insulating foam to the saddles.
I didn't like the Malone Sea Wings for |
Posted by: Yanoer on Jan-03-13 12:36 AM (EST)
any hull that didn't have a deep V hull - the support was in the weakest part of the hull between the keel and the hull/deck seam, but my saddles were only about 38" apart.
Yeah - for sculls|
Posted by: Celia on Jan-02-13 3:29 PM (EST)
Hence the weight bearing capacity of the longer bar may be a question mark for kayaks. But they sure do look nice.
Posted by: cliffrnatp on Jan-02-13 4:35 PM (EST)
Check out goodboykayaks dot com
I Second Cliff's V Bars|
Posted by: Trilobite02 on Jan-02-13 6:59 PM (EST)
Have two of them on my vehicle, and my skis are rock solid-little, if any flex. The KayakPro V bars have quite a bit of 'give' due to their smaller cross section and difference in material. I easily transport my wife's Epic Endurance as well. 30 seconds and you're loaded up and on the road. I will never go back to saddles and straps again. Plus, you can find your vehicle easily in parking lots. (And they make a hell of a Christmas tree hauling device to boot!) ;)
Posted by: carldelo on Jan-02-13 7:21 PM (EST)
I've used my EZ-Vees to carry quite a lot of lumber and ripped plywood on my Mini, as well as a rolled up carpet, it works really well.
Question on EZ-Vees|
Posted by: 123Abuelo on Jan-03-13 8:12 AM (EST)
Do you find that you really don't need front and rear tiedowns? I also wonder about using bungie cords to tie the boat down. From the other threads about tieing boats down to the roof of a car it seems that that is two things that you don't want to do.
Posted by: carldelo on Jan-03-13 4:09 PM (EST)
I've seen this setup...|
Posted by: johnysmoke on Jan-03-13 5:51 PM (EST)
That looks nice.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jan-03-13 10:14 PM (EST)
The boat is beautiful, too.
I've Seen Them|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Jan-03-13 6:34 PM (EST)
But wonder if saddles or cradles are available for supporting the boat upside down?
Just An Observation Today|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Jan-05-13 5:22 PM (EST)
Of how 21 ft plus solo outriggers were transported prior and after a windy (30+ kt.) open ocean race: Most were car/pickup topped upside down on padded Xbars with at least three (3) canoes resting side by side. Some were pointed forward and some were pointing backwards on the vehicle. None were tied down at the front and no saddles were used. Using saddles was the popular way to transport, but in high wind, upside down works best.