Some responses to other posts in other threads have brought up a question. Does a lighter paddler weight (and lack of gear load) make a higher volume boat sluggish and slow?
I am 5'11" 190lbs, boat load of food, water and crap of 75 to 85lbs in a WS Tsunami 170. I can easily keep pace with the group of other 14'/ 17' boats with lighter loads. With no load the boat seems quicker. My wife HATES the Tsunami, she is 5'10" 115lbs, the boat does not swallow her up, but she thinks it is like a bath tub and would rather be in a Pungo.
In another thread a smaller paddler commented on being light weight and not liking a boat and was advised that lighter weight can make a boat seem sluggish.
If a person fits a boat height wise, and the cockpit is padded to fit correctly, does lighter weight in a higher volume boat actually down grade the boats performance by lessening the water line of the boat?
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Posted by: pblanc on Dec-23-12 12:44 PM (EST)
when loaded. Some boats certainly feel more stable with a load.
Posted by: Kudzu on Dec-23-12 2:31 PM (EST)
A lot of boat (and paddler) sticking up out of the water catches a lot of wind. If the wind isn't at your back it's going to slow you down. The windier it is the more it's an issue.
I completely agree with Kudzu|
Posted by: JackL on Dec-23-12 4:51 PM (EST)
four of us were just talking about that a few hours ago while we were paddling. Put a lighter paddler in a large volume boat such as an expedition boat, and it will be higher in the water, and the wind could play havoc.
...and, possibly more 'tippy'|
Posted by: edzep on Dec-23-12 2:49 PM (EST)
By sitting higher in the water with a lighter paddler, the width on the water is narrower, while the paddler sits higher, relative to the water.
Theorectically, it probably does.|
Posted by: abc on Dec-23-12 4:12 PM (EST)
"If a person fits a boat height wise, and the cockpit is padded to fit correctly, does lighter weight in a higher "
As a smaller paddler...|
Posted by: Celia on Dec-23-12 4:21 PM (EST)
my wife uses Pungo as slang |
Posted by: trvlrerik on Dec-23-12 8:10 PM (EST)
for all wide rec boats. We still have a 120 Pungo as a new guy beginner boat.
Posted by: Celia on Dec-26-12 2:19 PM (EST)
Re my earlier reply (just deleted and am replacing) - I just reread and realized I had confounded your wife with the wife of another person on this site, said other wife is many inches shorter than yours.
I Can Relate|
Posted by: Kudzu on Dec-23-12 4:24 PM (EST)
30-60% of volume|
Posted by: old_user on Dec-23-12 5:08 PM (EST)
I did read somewhere that best performance is achieved for a total weight (in kilograms) of approximately 30% (30% at least, maximum 60%) of the kayak volume in liters. Example: 108 kilos, max 216 kg for a 360 liters kayak, (ex 80kg paddler with 28kg kayak of 360 l).
Posted by: ppine on Dec-24-12 11:59 AM (EST)
I like big boats. Putting a load on may lower the center of gravity and make a canoe feel more stable, but it puts a lot of boat in the water which makes maneuvering much more difficult. I really like the lightness of big boats with a lot of buoyancy, not to mention all that freeboard.
Posted by: sapien on Dec-24-12 12:29 PM (EST)
do seem to glide better with some load... they make great campers due to their large volume. I bet your 170 could swallow up a lot more than 75 lbs, I've loaded that much in my 140 before.
Paddling with a heavy load.|
Posted by: FrankNC on Dec-25-12 9:19 PM (EST)
I have noticed at times that it seems I average a faster average speed with a heavy load if it is windy with choppy water.
she is getting an Alchemy S|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Dec-28-12 10:22 PM (EST)
for Christmas, she just doesn't know I want that boat in the fleet as well.
She'll love it|
Posted by: Celia on Dec-29-12 8:05 AM (EST)
The Alchemy is like the NDK Romany/Explorer line - it'll leave a newer paddler feeling safe enough to try new stuff, but will also do any kind of aggressive work for a more advanced paddler.