question for owners of multiple kayaks
Posted by: slushpaddler on Dec-21-12 12:36 PM (EST) Category: unassigned
In your quiver of 2 or more kayaks - how many of those boats are more specialized in purpose or use, and how many are more "jack of all trade" compromises?
The thread on "it" boat prompted this question. It seems to me that unless one has a specialized use or purpose in mind, the best "it" boat would be a compromise boat. OTOH, if one were to own more than one boat, it might be better to pick from the extremes.
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Posted by: willi_h2o on Dec-21-12 12:50 PM (EST)
My problem is that|
Posted by: redmond on Dec-21-12 12:50 PM (EST)
most compromise boats that I've tried don't seem to do well anywhere. Because of my knees, I've shifted to SOT's. Surf ski's are a hoot, but they can be a handfull. A fishing type SOT is really comfortable and my old Manta Ray 14 was great in lower level whitewater. I also like to sail, so my Hobie Adventure Island sails really well. Now, it's a barge when pedaling or paddling, but it's fun as a sailboat. And, my inflatable, an Innove Safari, packs in and out well along with being a pretty good whitewater boat.
have two, may add a third|
Posted by: jcbikeski on Dec-21-12 1:00 PM (EST)
My glass Aquanaut is my distance cruiser and overnight boat. My plastic P&H Delphin is my surf or play in the rocks boat. I may add a much smaller boat for some surf and rocks. I'm not the sort to have many more.
Posted by: NateHanson on Dec-26-12 9:50 AM (EST)
I actually have the exact same two boats (though something like a Cetus, Force 4, Explorer, etc would serve the same purpose as the Aquanaut), and I think they're a good pair. Both tend towards opposite ends of the distance/play continuum, but they're both capable across a wide range.
Posted by: jcbikeski on Dec-27-12 8:07 PM (EST)
The overlap between these two boats comes in handy. I've had the Delpin on the car all week for some surf play but had occasion to do a 14 miles tour today. The Delphin was good enough to avoid the car reload hassle and there was some surf on the tour anyway.
Posted by: Andy_Szymczak on Dec-21-12 1:02 PM (EST)
3 different boats on a regular basis, the other 3, not so much. My Artisan Millenium (18' sea kayak) is my main ride, but I mix it up by paddling my Mako XT surf ski, and my canoe, a Sawyer Summersong. How I make the decision is dependent on multiple factors. Weather, temps and venue.
Posted by: desertdave on Dec-21-12 1:19 PM (EST)
The two rec boats will probably be sold off this spring, so I won't cover them.
Just two right now.....|
Posted by: chodups on Dec-21-12 1:43 PM (EST)
5 in the fleet with one on the way|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Dec-21-12 1:57 PM (EST)
Pyrahna Fusion for WW and surf play, WS Tsunami 170 as a pack mule travel boat, Manatou 14 for general trips and spare boat, LL Inuit 14.5 as my rocky area beater (rough use), WS Pungo 120 as a spare, for tag along freinds with little kayak experience. I just ordered a WS Zephyr 155 as a surf/touring boat, (the sport car of the fleet). Once the Zephyr arrives I will get rid of the Pungo and the Manatou will be used as the "new guy" boat.
Posted by: johnysmoke on Dec-21-12 3:05 PM (EST)
Pack mule: Nigel Foster Shadow
Posted by: Kudzu on Dec-21-12 3:08 PM (EST)
Tempest 165 is my 'do everything'.
Different boats for different water|
Posted by: waterspyder on Dec-21-12 4:11 PM (EST)
Rapidfire for the Adirondacks
Posted by: Celia on Dec-21-12 4:28 PM (EST)
my momma used to say|
Posted by: tdaniel on Dec-21-12 6:54 PM (EST)
Posted by: daggermat on Dec-21-12 8:59 PM (EST)
that's a good question. Still have my first canoe, a 15' Dagger Reflection, and that has become my all around "go to" boat. Cl.2, decent enough for poling, center seat for paddling, nice comfortable boat for long days. The Dumoine went from cl.2-3 tandem to a dedicated poling boat, though I could tandem if i wanted I suppose.
question for daggermat?|
Posted by: tdaniel on Dec-21-12 9:24 PM (EST)
is the Millbrook flashback the same design as the madriver flashback of the 80s? My experience was that the madriver version was responsive and a great class two surfin boat but became very wet when the gradient picked up.
yup it is|
Posted by: daggermat on Dec-22-12 8:32 AM (EST)
Posted by: jsmarch on Dec-21-12 9:38 PM (EST)
Ten years ago, I had a P&H Quest and a Pintail and was perfectly happy. Then got into Greenland paddling, and soon had a variety of kayaks for special purposes. Now looking to simplify again....
I might be the odd one|
Posted by: gnarlydog on Dec-21-12 9:44 PM (EST)
I might be the odd one with 5 sea kayaks that are very similar to each other and of the same style, only the 6th one is different.
If You Paddle Extreme and Hard|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Dec-21-12 11:47 PM (EST)
Then you need back up boats while your damaged ones are in the "OR." If you race, best to own a pair: one for training and the other to race. So if you race whitewater, flat water, and ocean, you can have a minimum of at least six (6) boats stored somewhere in the yard? Anything does happen, and having to sit out a race, event or outing due to a broken boat is a catastrophe. Now go add a bunch of doubles and the family cruisers? I'm over a dozen now, plus the kids.
Just 2 boats|
Posted by: radskierman on Dec-22-12 7:38 AM (EST)
Necky Chatham 16 Poly is by far my favorite. Great in rough water, surf and very maneuverable. easy to roll. My other boat is an Impex Assateague fiberglass. Paddled maybe 3 times in past 3 years. A foot longer than the Necky, harder to roll due to higher back deck, but enough space for a 2 week expedition, and much faster than the Necky, so I use it for 25+ mile paddles. Anybody want to buy a slightly used Assateague?
Posted by: Wayne_Smith on Dec-22-12 8:49 AM (EST)
Among the sea kayaks:
Posted by: tsunamichuck1 on Dec-22-12 9:29 AM (EST)
3 piece Nordkapp great for going straight and keeping in an apartment or hotel but at 80+ lbs, heavy
Posted by: emanoh on Dec-22-12 10:05 AM (EST)
When someone or usually my wife, asks about my multiple boats and the old line "you can only paddle one at a time" comes up I just say, "you can't expect Tiger Woods to golf with only one or two clubs, right?"
A shed full.|
Posted by: cliffjrs on Dec-22-12 5:03 PM (EST)
Nothing serious or dedicated. We enjoy our friends and company whether we've met them yet or not.
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Dec-22-12 5:18 PM (EST)
None of them is specialized|
Posted by: pikabike on Dec-24-12 11:01 PM (EST)
The whitewater boat (Jackson Side Kick) is a generalist model.
Aside from the uses mentioned|
Posted by: wavespinner on Dec-26-12 7:26 AM (EST)
My preference is to go with specialized boats as opposed to compromises. In addition, I have some buddy boats, for lending, and beaters that I employ for giving instruction where contact with other boats is frequent.
it's an addiction|
Posted by: Phrogman on Dec-26-12 9:32 AM (EST)
Clearly kayak collecting is an addiction. Current inventory consists of :
all specialized except one each|
Posted by: FrankNC on Dec-26-12 10:20 AM (EST)
We each have one one that we could do everything with.
Fiberglass and plastic|
Posted by: dc9mm on Dec-26-12 12:10 PM (EST)
NDK Greenlander Pro made with fiberglass for big water(lake Erie/Ontario). Plastic WS Tsunami 140 for creeks with rocks and such. Plus really need one more out of plastic a bit longer and sleeker too for big water were I might be landing were its ruff were I dont want to scratch or gouge fiberglass gelcoat.
4 boats 4............|
Posted by: trout on Dec-26-12 3:42 PM (EST)
..........different uses ..a 17.5' fiberglass cruiser .... 16' poly boat for camping and getting beat up.....13.5' foot tandem ,rigged for solo fishing.........10 foot hybrid w/w boat.
ANOTHER ' NOT SPECIALIZED', SORT OF...|
Posted by: scupperfrank on Dec-26-12 8:42 PM (EST)
We have 2 SOTs, a 'racing SOT, & 3 SINKs. We didn't really consider any of them ' specialized' when we bought them - they were each at the time a progression on our paddling experience path...