How much, is too much, or too little, flex
and what are pros/cons of paddle flex ?
How is it labled, marketed, known upon purchase ?
If it flexes a lot, is the paddler pulling to hard
or, perhaps it made to do that for some reason ?
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Too little, too much . . . |
Posted by: water_walker on Dec-12-12 5:03 PM (EST)
Posted by: nickjc on Dec-12-12 5:15 PM (EST)
how much is too much is a matter of taste.
Posted by: Kudzu on Dec-12-12 5:22 PM (EST)
Posted by: carldelo on Dec-12-12 5:58 PM (EST)
As Kudzu says, if the flex is in the paddling direction, and the unflexing happens underwater, not much energy is lost.
Isn't That What the "fizzicyst" Describe|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Dec-13-12 2:35 AM (EST)
As Elastic Potential Energy (EPA)?
Indeed it is...|
Posted by: carldelo on Dec-13-12 12:47 PM (EST)
...and now all we have to do is to get manufacturers to measure and list an effective spring constant for their paddles. OK, probably not gonna happen....
I prefer no flex ...|
Posted by: Bob_d on Dec-12-12 6:10 PM (EST)
Most of my paddling is at hard exercise pace with a carbon wing blade / stiff shaft. I like all of my effort to go into driving the boat forward.
Posted by: ret603 on Dec-13-12 10:39 AM (EST)
Americans seem to be pre-programed to find the ONE SOLUTION and then try to apply it to all. There are always a number of solutions that apply to different people or different situations or different points in their life. To Bob-d's list of possible causes of aching after using a stiff paddle he should add age.
Americans seem to be|
Posted by: rectorsquid on Dec-13-12 3:00 PM (EST)
That's a but insulting. Using Stereotypes is just bad form dude.
I did list age Dave..|
Posted by: Bob_d on Dec-13-12 4:56 PM (EST)
Rating systems for flex|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Dec-13-12 1:47 AM (EST)
Should more manufacturers address the issue of flex ?
I like a little flex|
Posted by: gibsonra on Dec-13-12 8:49 AM (EST)
I have had super stiff paddles and recently changed to a paddle with some flex for whitewater. For me the flex seems to give it more feel. Similar to riding a steel bike frame over an aluminum frame. Or a wood handled tool compared to a steel handled tool. It's hard to describe but no flex just doesn't have the feel that I prefer. It is likely preference.
I use slalom paddles for paddling |
Posted by: g2d on Dec-13-12 2:09 PM (EST)
whitewater, and my Mitchell is flexible in both the glassed wood blade, and in its carbon shaft. Mitchell calibrated the flex very effectively. Gives excellent feedback, and on forward strokes, the flex makes the slightly trailing blade act like a bent shaft. I'm sure I get that energy back before the stroke is finished.
Posted by: JerrySmith on Dec-13-12 10:30 AM (EST)
Since it's pretty much a personal preference thing, I don't see any point in rating flex as a marketing tool. The degree of flex is easy to determine when you examine a paddle. Some like it stiff, some like flex.
The topic was indeed FLEX|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Dec-13-12 1:19 PM (EST)
Posted by: guideboatguy on Dec-13-12 1:40 PM (EST)
I prefer a bit of flex.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Dec-13-12 3:10 PM (EST)
I like the Epic burgundy shaft flex. Their green shaft seems a bit stiff for my liking.
Posted by: jimyaker on Dec-13-12 4:47 PM (EST)
I recently switched from a one-piece fiberglass to a one piece carbon fiber (same design, lighter weight) for running Class II-III whitewater.
Posted by: willi_h2o on Dec-13-12 5:49 PM (EST)
Posted by: guideboatguy on Dec-13-12 7:13 PM (EST)
What system |
Posted by: willi_h2o on Dec-15-12 12:19 AM (EST)
If you talked to a manufacturer which direction
If your shoulders or biceps are stiff...|
Posted by: FrankNC on Dec-17-12 9:43 AM (EST)
Use a paddle with more flex. I use a Lumpy that is really flexible compared to my other paddles, it gets the most miles per day. An Aquabound fiberglass paddle for rivers and surfing get the most waves per day for me. For a one day race I think the light stiff carbon shaft and blade paddle I have works best, but only for one day and then an off day after that.