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You Don't Need It...
Posted by: sing on Dec-08-12 4:50 PM (EST)

until you need it (which is usually the worse time to find out that you needed it).

Just going down to the corner store. Do I really need the seatbelt?

Going for an easy ride on the bike path. Do I really have to wear a helmet? (My jury came in on this one recently,)

Maybe this guy was just doing something stupid...

http://gitcheegumeeguy.blogspot.com/2012/06/kayak-tragedy-off-pigeon-point.html

If you are looking for agreement that it's fine for you to go without immersion gear in cold water conditions, if it's calm, there are a couple of folks here who share that perspective. The prevailing sentiment (mine included), however, is that -- Yes, you would be an idiot.

Hey, you asked... ;)

sing

Table of Contents

Kayaking in really cold water - Toller - Dec-08-12 3:02 PM
- Go for a swim - then report back - willi_h2o - Dec-08-12 4:08 PM
- Atlantic Kayak Tours website - RavenWing - Dec-08-12 4:13 PM
- Hypothermia is deceptive - trvlrerik - Dec-08-12 4:34 PM
- You Don't Need It... - sing - Dec-08-12 4:50 PM
  - A couple of years ago... - ByronWalter - Dec-08-12 5:16 PM
  - Well said, Sing. I went over my first - shirlann - Dec-08-12 5:23 PM
- Inuit who still use kayaks - kayamedic - Dec-08-12 5:53 PM
  - One thing you left out - Wayne_Smith - Dec-09-12 9:04 AM
- Second the swim, plus... - Celia - Dec-08-12 6:13 PM
- Necky Zoar Sport - pblanc - Dec-08-12 6:35 PM
- Saftety and Comfort - guideboatguy - Dec-08-12 6:37 PM
  - Deep lake here - kayamedic - Dec-08-12 6:46 PM
    - dry suit - bowler1 - Dec-08-12 6:55 PM
      - Dry suit is not realistic - FrankNC - Dec-08-12 7:50 PM
        
        Google Cold Water Boot camp - QCHiker - Dec-08-12 7:54 PM
        Or... - Kudzu - Dec-09-12 5:48 AM
- I've done rolls ina Zoar Sport - Peter-CA - Dec-08-12 10:55 PM
- 'Impossible to Capsize' -- Red Flag - LittleRed - Dec-08-12 11:14 PM
  - I appreciate the help - Toller - Dec-08-12 11:51 PM
    - 100 feet might be too far - pblanc - Dec-09-12 7:11 AM
    - Take a cold shower - Jaybabina - Dec-09-12 7:59 AM
    - Too far from shore - Celia - Dec-09-12 9:11 AM
    - Be Very Careful... - VK1NF - Dec-09-12 9:41 AM
- There is an audience here. - Cliffjrs - Dec-09-12 8:17 AM
  - dry suit - bowler1 - Dec-09-12 8:34 AM
    - All I can do here - rjd9999 - Dec-09-12 11:18 AM
- You're bucking for... - Bnystrom - Dec-09-12 6:58 PM
- I hope Toller comes back and posts - kayamedic - Dec-09-12 7:31 PM
  - At this time - Toller - Dec-10-12 11:10 AM
    - Depth isn't that big a factor - rjd9999 - Dec-10-12 12:05 PM
      - you will find - daggermat - Dec-10-12 12:15 PM
      - Depth seems to be allowing open water - kayamedic - Dec-10-12 12:22 PM
    - Honestly - swim it - willi_h2o - Dec-10-12 12:11 PM
    - For myself - pblanc - Dec-10-12 12:18 PM
    - Same as before... - Celia - Dec-10-12 12:43 PM
- Every winter we lose a few - nickjc - Dec-10-12 12:24 PM
- Sidenote to all - willi_h2o - Dec-10-12 2:27 PM
- get in the water - slushpaddler - Dec-10-12 2:31 PM
  - no one can answer - RavenWing - Dec-10-12 6:12 PM
    - Hypothermia - jimyaker - Dec-10-12 7:15 PM
      - Just lost one to 56 degree water - FrankNC - Dec-10-12 8:28 PM
        
        Sad... - rjd9999 - Dec-10-12 10:00 PM
    - Again, I appreciate all your advice, but - Toller - Dec-10-12 11:48 PM
      - Gasp Reflex ... - seadart - Dec-11-12 12:37 AM
      - I'm out..........next, please on P.Net - willi_h2o - Dec-11-12 12:40 AM
      - good insulation - RavenWing - Dec-11-12 2:11 AM
      - You aren't getting what is being said - Celia - Dec-11-12 7:49 AM
      - so if it's so easy.... - slushpaddler - Dec-11-12 10:00 AM
      - you may not get gasp reflex, but... - jcbikeski - Dec-11-12 11:12 AM
- I used to live in the north country - roanguy - Dec-11-12 10:37 AM
- Toller or "troller?" - spiritboat - Dec-11-12 12:12 PM
- Cold Water Immersion - H2OAddict - Dec-12-12 1:30 PM
- Dominos - jimyaker - Dec-12-12 3:03 PM
- winter paddling - ppine - Dec-12-12 6:21 PM
  - Cold Water Cold Temps - huntly2 - Dec-12-12 10:55 PM
    - No solution to your cold hands? - guideboatguy - Dec-12-12 11:28 PM
      - Possibly Reynaud's - kayamedic - Dec-12-12 11:39 PM
- In this case... - abc - Dec-13-12 3:48 PM
  - partly the point I made - jcbikeski - Dec-13-12 4:07 PM
  - You can forget that depth remark - guideboatguy - Dec-13-12 4:49 PM
    - Water depth in CNY - radskierman - Dec-13-12 5:55 PM
      - Yeah, I found a map of that lake - guideboatguy - Dec-13-12 8:21 PM
  - Guessing you haven't been hypothermic... - Celia - Dec-13-12 5:22 PM
    - common sense? - abc - Dec-13-12 7:32 PM
      - And that is what everyone has said - Celia - Dec-13-12 8:38 PM
        
        . - abc - Dec-13-12 10:06 PM
        
        250 feet deep - dc9mm - Dec-14-12 11:58 AM
        
        what I wonder - slushpaddler - Dec-14-12 12:02 PM
        
        That's a good point too - guideboatguy - Dec-14-12 12:18 PM
        
        LOL - kayamedic - Dec-15-12 11:56 PM
- Don't do it - TrevorN - Dec-15-12 10:57 PM
  - another thing to add - FrankNC - Dec-17-12 9:53 AM
    - Physiological Considerations factor in - willi_h2o - Dec-17-12 1:15 PM