Santa says I have been very good this year and is interested in getting me a very nice new paddle. I need to nudge Santa in the right direction. I am a kneeler looking for a straight stick, non zre. I like at least a little wood on the paddle. Eyeing a Mitchel Surreal and the Cricket Gemini IV for general touring. Looking for insights and opinions, or even alternatives. Thanks for your help.
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Still saying it|
Posted by: mcimes on Dec-05-12 9:38 PM (EST)
Is this advice from a non-kneeler?|
Posted by: guideboatguy on Dec-05-12 9:50 PM (EST)
That model Zaveral has a bent shaft, and the OP is a kneeler who wants one with s straight shaft. Some favorite strokes that I do kneeling can't be done with a bent shaft, or even a straight shaft if it has a designated grip orientation, so I have a hunch the OP has his reasons for wanting a straight.
You can get a straight shaft cant you?|
Posted by: mcimes on Dec-06-12 8:04 AM (EST)
Yes, and with a symetric palm grip.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Dec-06-12 10:30 AM (EST)
Hmmm. I just checked their website...|
Posted by: guideboatguy on Dec-06-12 10:37 AM (EST)
... and unless I missed something, every paddle listed was a bent-shaft. They had a whitewater paddle that appeared to have a straight shaft, but I didn't check too closely once I noticed that the blade itself was curved, and meant to be one-directional.
Its under "shaft angle"|
Posted by: mcimes on Dec-06-12 3:03 PM (EST)
Than ks (nm)|
Posted by: guideboatguy on Dec-07-12 8:26 AM (EST)
Posted by: kayamedic on Dec-05-12 10:50 PM (EST)
Posted by: wildernesswebb on Dec-05-12 11:57 PM (EST)
Second the Dog Paddle|
Posted by: timburris on Dec-06-12 7:47 AM (EST)
Functional art. Extremely light and quiet. Slices perfectly in water. However, I am not wild about using it in shallow or rocky places, because it's too nice (not too delicate). But if Santa is bringing you a lake paddle, you should check them out.
Surreal or Tourning Special.|
Posted by: openboater on Dec-06-12 8:05 AM (EST)
The Mitchell TS is all wood awesomeness. But if you want carbon in the stick too, the Surreal is great. The light weightness of the western cedar, base wood laminated shaft balanced off the carbon blade is sweet. Just the right amount of flex.
Posted by: rblturtle on Dec-06-12 9:30 AM (EST)
I third Dog paddles. Marc Ornstien is a freestyle canoe champion and really knows how to make a sweet straight shaft paddle. One of his custom made paddles would be an ultimate xmas present. I love mine. Also,I have padled with Marc in rocky streams where he uses one of his paddles. I belive he is planning a paddle just for that type of use.
Sawyer Straight Shaft Manta|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Dec-06-12 8:16 PM (EST)
I've been paddling for years with a Quad Bend Sawyer Manta Paddle, that I liked very much, and ordered another one, with a straight, no bends shaft. Now, I can use both the front and back faces as the power face and like it even more. This is a very powerful paddle, but very smooth feel when using the back face as the power face. Unfortunately, the straight shaft version feels a lot heavier than the quad bend shaft, which might be due to denser wood used in the straight shaft?
recreating or racing|
Posted by: yknpdlr on Dec-06-12 9:48 PM (EST)
There are more than a few choices.|
Posted by: tktoo on Dec-07-12 9:38 AM (EST)
Obviously, Santa wants you to be very good next year, too. And the year after next.
I love my Mitchell Surreal|
Posted by: Jsaults on Dec-08-12 3:39 PM (EST)
Very light, very thin, very stiff. And you can customize the grip should you so wish, unlike Zavs. And if you ever do in-water recoveries you will be amazed at the nearly totallack of resistance and quietness of the blade slicing the liquid.
Posted by: susquehanna on Dec-08-12 7:28 PM (EST)
Dale Fox at Foxworx makes nice wood and composite paddles for a reasonable price. http://www.foxworxpaddle.com/straight_shaft_canoe_paddles.html
ZRE, but look at Gillespie for hybrids|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Dec-08-12 8:43 PM (EST)
There was no bigger wood bigot than me until a few years ago. I have now narrowed a lot of paddles down to two: a 48.5" bent (outrigger light Powersurge) and a 57" straight (WW blade, symmetrical grip) ZRE, both with flex shafts. With these two blades I go on any waters -- shallow, deep, flat, white -- for a total weight of 25 oz. I cringe now at the weight of even my finest wooden paddles.
57" ZRE Straight? That's a 38" shaft,|
Posted by: Yanoer on Dec-09-12 10:37 AM (EST)
It's a compromise length, more for WW|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Dec-09-12 7:41 PM (EST)
It is too long for a flatwater cruising straight paddle. I would probably use a 54" ZRE for that. But I only want two paddles for everything when tripping.
I'm a ZRE convert. |
Posted by: rpg51 on Dec-09-12 8:53 PM (EST)
I'm with Glen. I switched to ZRE bent about 6-8 years ago for everything I do which is basically tripping in big royalex and kevlar boats in all kinds of water including white water. The only problem is on trips like the Allagash where standing is often the best approach so I carry a big long wood beaver tail on that trip. But I am so accustomed to 12 Ozs now that I simply cannot go back. I have beat the cr*p out of my ZRE and it is just beginning to show some danger signs along the blade edges. Question is can I get another 10-15 years out of it. Probably not. We'll see.
That makes sense.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Dec-09-12 9:38 PM (EST)
I've retained the length on my 56" ZRE straight for those very few times I encounter large wave trains so I can keep some paddle in the water.
Posted by: ppine on Dec-10-12 12:00 PM (EST)
It is hard to beat a paddle that you have made yourself.
Saltwood Sweet T or Kialoa|
Posted by: FrankNC on Dec-10-12 8:43 PM (EST)
Both make good straight shaft single blades.
Been Looking For Years to|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Dec-12-12 4:03 AM (EST)
Acquire a previously used Quimby paddle. If anyone has a 62" for sale, please let me know?