Sea Kayak Advice
Posted by: Jcschu07 on Dec-05-12 4:19 PM (EST) Category: unassigned
Hi all, I am looking to get into sea kayaking and am trying to figure out what kind of boat to get. I am 5'7" and will be kayaking in and around Charleston, SC so some ocean, some marshes, some blackwater creeks, a little bit of everything. I am looking for a touring kayak that I can take on day trips and overnight trips, about 16 or so feet long, and I want polyethylene since I will likely be bumping into stuff in swamps etc. I have been looking pretty closely at the WS tempest 165 but a local dealer where I live now has a Venture Capella 166 on sale for about $1000. Seems like a good deal given the popularity of the capella when it was made by P+H. That said, I cant find much info on the Venture version and am wondering if it is a good buy at that price or if I should look around some more. Specifically how does it compare to the tempest I mentioned earlier? Thanks for any help!
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Getin and paddle|
Posted by: Peter-CA on Dec-05-12 4:45 PM (EST)
My strong suggestion for anyone looking to buy a boat is get in and paddle them. You need to find the one that fits you.
what peter said|
Posted by: nickjc on Dec-05-12 5:26 PM (EST)
Also consider taking some classes if you are just starting out. Especially with a skeg boat you need some steering stroke skills.
capella's a nice boat|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Dec-05-12 5:40 PM (EST)
...but I'd third the advice here. Get out and demo paddle. You're in a great area to do so, plenty of vendors your way. Why? Because you might think you like the capella enough to buy it - right until you try another boat.
Posted by: Jcschu07 on Dec-05-12 6:17 PM (EST)
I will definitely give the boats a try, but as to the point about getting a used boat, I had intended to but honestly it is hard to find a used 16' sea kayak in good condition for less than that capella is selling for, which is why I asked in the first place. Thanks for the tips though!
it's not a bad price|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Dec-06-12 10:22 AM (EST)
I've always liked the capella, poly construction is good. Should your preferences change you will be able to find a buyer, and regardless the capella will always make a decent day or weekend boat if/when you add to the fleet.
Posted by: t.george on Dec-05-12 8:43 PM (EST)
Peter's advice to "paddle em'" is always sound. Ask yourself, how atheletic you are & intend to be, how far do you expect to advance in the next year or two? My understanding is the Capella is a great beginner's boat and a good stable tourer. The Tempest,(among other boats), are not quite so beginner friendly but a bit sportier while still good as touring flat water. Research and paddle; a couple of hundred bucks difference is worth it on the front IMO.
Hard to comment usefully|
Posted by: Celia on Dec-05-12 8:46 PM (EST)
It appears that you are just starting out.. have you gotten any seat time in a sea kayak thru either guided tours or lessons?
Posted by: suiram on Dec-06-12 9:24 AM (EST)
Has really good instructors, I would recommend getting in touch. If getting instruction is not your thing, they will, at least, put you in different boats.
Capella is a fun kayak|
Posted by: CapeFear on Dec-06-12 11:44 AM (EST)
trying photos again|
Posted by: CapeFear on Dec-06-12 11:47 AM (EST)
see if it works this time
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Posted by: countrygent on Dec-06-12 2:17 PM (EST)
check your "local dealer"
Capella too big?|
Posted by: aamapes on Dec-10-12 11:41 PM (EST)
Paddle both and check for fit. The P&H Capella 166 I had for a while was pretty high volume - perhaps too big for your size. My friend who is 6'4" and 275# paddled it more than I did.
Venture diff. than original Capella|
Posted by: Marshall on Dec-11-12 7:11 AM (EST)
The new Venture Capella is a different layout than the old P&H Capella. The seat is broader, thigh braces allow more vertical height for the legs, more pronounced vee keel for tracking, single layer plastic which is quite rigid (and $1500 rather than $1800 for the 3 layer Corelite). A lot of the same features too such as Kajaksport hatches, security bar, P&H up haul cord foil skeg, formed seat pan, etc.
Just visited the venture site,|
Posted by: t.george on Dec-12-12 8:23 AM (EST)
From the Venture site, the Capella 166 & 160 look to be vey different boats. The 160 in the alt. view show defined rocker as the WS tempest 165 does,(making these much more manuverable I'd expect). The C-166 looks almost rail straight, good for tracking, but I'd not expect much in the way of responsiveness. On their site you can click the "units" to get inches and pounds, worth looking at, the 166 looks to be a fairly large boat & might be barge like without enough weight.