Is there anything I need to know to pack a throw bag or do you just stuff it all in there?
When you get home, do you unpack it to dry the line?
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Posted by: pblanc on Dec-04-12 6:03 PM (EST)
Just stuff it back in a little at a time. Sometimes it is easier to turn your back on the rope and let it trail overt the top of your shoulder as you re-stuff it. And it may be quicker if you leave your hand inside the bag as you re-stuff the rope, at least till the bag gets too full for your hand.
Here's a video from NRS|
Posted by: desertdave on Dec-04-12 7:13 PM (EST)
All you need to know is in this video|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Dec-04-12 8:30 PM (EST)
Think about it like packing a parachute. Practice it, get it right, and remember that someone's life may be at issue.
Posted by: willi_h2o on Dec-04-12 7:31 PM (EST)
Posted by: t.george on Dec-05-12 12:08 AM (EST)
...OK, it loads way easy, very cool; but to suggest that you can reload for a second throw is, well, stupid IMO. Basic swift water SAR teaches to pull the bag in as quick as possible after a miss, scoop the bag full of water and throw again. Even with the rope strewn all over a bag even half full throws better/further than the first deployment. If someone needs a rope they need it without delay.
IMO its not stupid|
Posted by: kayamedic on Dec-05-12 8:41 AM (EST)
We deployed some six throw bags in a canyon on the Snake River. Fortunately we had six throw bags. We were some twenty feet above the river on canyon walls. No way to reach the river to scoop water up.
Posted by: t.george on Dec-05-12 9:34 AM (EST)
...a handfull of gravel would do the same W/O taking time to re-pack...just plain gimmicky,(to the point of dis-service), to state things that way IMHO; why not just stand on the fact that it packs easily and who knows, maybe it deploys better with that large opening.
My friend has one|
Posted by: pblanc on Dec-05-12 10:00 AM (EST)
Posted by: jimyaker on Dec-05-12 5:46 PM (EST)
As others have stated, you pack them in a few inches at a time so the rope will play out smoothly and without tying itself in knots.
re drying the bag|
Posted by: rikjohnson on Dec-07-12 10:47 AM (EST)
I keep my throw-bag on deck so even if I never use it or never overturn, the bag is presumed to have gotten wet via splashing or use.
Before leaving for a trip, all gear is |
Posted by: shirlann on Dec-07-12 11:35 AM (EST)
checked. The size of rope taken on a trip will depend on the river we'll be paddling.
Throw bag evolution|
Posted by: Jsaults on Dec-08-12 3:33 PM (EST)
I sold Charlie Walbridge's bags in retail back in the late 70s. His design used a longer bag which left LOTS of room for what I call Ratchet Stuffing. Many bags on the market now are short, which makes them look good on the retailer's shelf and makes them non-floppy on deck or in a watercraft. But the Wildwater Designs bags were much faster to stuff IMO.
Posted by: pblanc on Dec-12-12 7:07 PM (EST)
I still have one of those Wildwater Designs bags and they were indeed easier to stuff. Not only that, because the rope was not stuffed in as tightly, it seemed to pay out more smoothly and with less friction.
My old Wildwater Designs bags had |
Posted by: ezwater on Dec-17-12 1:42 AM (EST)
enough exttra volume and depth that I could get my large hand partway inside where I could reload by flexing and extending my wrist. My WD bag with Kevlar line *cut* the line because the brass grommet at the bottom of the bag was sharp-edged. With any grommetted bag, check that detail.
Posted by: ppine on Dec-12-12 6:40 PM (EST)
If one has basic sewing skills it|
Posted by: shirlann on Dec-17-12 1:03 AM (EST)
shouldn't be too difficult to remove either remove the bottom (I've not looked at how it's designed yet), add some more material, connect the rope to it, sew your seams and you're set to refill.