Spray skirt stuck?
Posted by: old_user on Nov-04-12 7:30 PM (EST) Category: unassigned
Hi, newbie on the forum.. Just wondering as I had a scary exp not that long ago. My skirt was stuck, in my stupidity I didn't check release strap were easily accessed to lift and remove,(it was caught partially) under elastic of skirt. First time ever I didn't take my time in applying skirt.. Anyway, flipped over to cut a long story short, really struggled to get it off, there was a moment when I thought that I was stuck, boat was stuck alongside partially submerged tree..
Anyone have any other ideas about how to release a trapped spray skirt?
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Not sure this is official method|
Posted by: seadart on Nov-04-12 8:07 PM (EST)
You can put your kuckles down by your hips with both hands and and press down as hard and as you can then grab for the edge when it comes off.
thats what I do|
Posted by: rickEv on Nov-04-12 8:43 PM (EST)
I was also taught to grab around the hips and try to get a bit of a wrinkle in the fabric and work it until you can get underneath. I always try this with a new boat or skirt. If you can't get it off this way, it's dangerous and shouldn't be used. There are too many things that can go wrong with the grab loop to trust your life to it.
Posted by: rjd9999 on Nov-04-12 9:20 PM (EST)
The spray skirt should not be at all able to exceed the power you can generate with arms and/or legs. A few things you can do:
Not sure that's viable for WW|
Posted by: Kocho on Nov-05-12 2:57 PM (EST)
If your skirt would pop-off that easy, I think that is a serious hazard in white water, where the forces that water places on your skirt are probably bigger than what you describe. You do *not* want your skirt to pop unintentionally in the middle of a gnarly rapid or while in a hole etc. At the same time, you do want to easily release yourself from the skirt... A bit of a conflict -:)
What kind of skirt and boat?|
Posted by: Celia on Nov-04-12 9:53 PM (EST)
After one such incident, I just |
Posted by: ezwater on Nov-04-12 10:02 PM (EST)
made sure the skirt grab loop stayed out where it belonged.
Learn to release skirt|
Posted by: aamapes on Nov-05-12 12:01 AM (EST)
Glad you made it out OK. Everyone using a skirt should learn the simple way to release the skirt if the grab loop is not available. Grab the skirt with both hands together, in the front of the coaming, off to the side of the loop (11:00 or 1:00 if you imagine the coaming as a clock face).
Thanks Alan :)|
Posted by: thirstyturtle on Nov-05-12 9:48 AM (EST)
Posted by: nickjc on Nov-05-12 1:21 AM (EST)
There is a second nylon strap across the neoprene deck of snapdragon skirts. Just grab the strap to pull off the skirt. this makes it pretty fool proof.
don't panic and try everything!|
Posted by: tdaniel on Nov-05-12 4:31 AM (EST)
That's what I told myself when I found myself trapped by a sprayskirt a few years ago. I was paddling the Little River in TN (below the elbow) and three of us had been swapping boats to keep the class II-III run interesting. I jumped in someones free style,or rodeo kayak and promptly flipped at the bottom of a class III rapid. I tried to roll but the balance was totally different so I only got 3/4 of the way up. It was chilly (March in the Smokies)but I was dressed appropriately, and had some air in my lungs. I couldn't find a grab loop along the cockpit combing. I ditched the paddle and put my hands on the sides of the boat and pushed with all my might with both my hands and feet. I came up off the seat but it felt like a giant rubber band was holding me in the boat still. I tried grabbing a side of the skirt under the cockpit combing with no success. What got me out was grabbing the skirt with both hands and pulling, but this is hard to do wearing neoprene gloves. That did the trick. If that hadn't of worked I would have tried peeling down the tunnel and kicking my way out. My main thought while I was upside down was how embarrassing it would be to die in class III rapid. Certainly, if your going to die on a river you want it to be on something more worthy. That was my screwed up thought process.
Posted by: jimyaker on Nov-05-12 10:16 AM (EST)
pull up the side|
Posted by: Jaybabina on Nov-05-12 10:31 AM (EST)
Posted by: carldelo on Nov-05-12 11:57 AM (EST)
A whiffle-type golf ball is good - I couldn't find one so used a bright red el-cheapo carabiner. When inverted, it hangs down and is easy to see and grab.
there is a down side to wiffle balls, |
Posted by: tvcrider on Nov-05-12 12:09 PM (EST)
biners, or any other item mounted to a spray skirt's grab loop. They have a tendency to catch on things when one is performing deep water reentries.
Posted by: jimyaker on Nov-05-12 2:12 PM (EST)
The biner is a no-no in the whitewater world -- it could clip into something at just the wrong time.
Posted by: carldelo on Nov-05-12 6:10 PM (EST)
Posted by: davejjj on Nov-05-12 6:34 PM (EST)
This is a standard newbie mistake. You always check that the strap is accessible. In my case I have no trouble just grabbing the boat and pushing my way out no matter what, but some people don't seem to be able to do that. When you put your skirt on, the first thing you must always do is check the pull strap. Make that a habit.