As the water temps are going down I pulled out my farmer john wet suit and 2 things happened. I am fatter and my velcro straps are wearing out, time for a new suit.
In cold weather boat rides I do not intend to get wet, the suit is only for safety. my usual attire is the farmer john, Muck boots, under armor top with wool sweater and cap. (and pdf)
I am looking at NRS ultra john, or the NRS steamer full suit. I was thinking that with a full suit I could lighten my clothing a little. I am not sure about if a full suit will bind me up, or be less restrictive than heavy winter clothing. A dry suit is out of the question due to cash.
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Look at surfing wetsuits|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Oct-27-12 10:12 PM (EST)
They are warm and flexible. You can get full wetsuits and shorties in a variety of thicknesses. I got mine at https://www.oregonsurfshop.com/. But there are other dealers.
Posted by: pikabike on Oct-27-12 10:50 PM (EST)
You can wear it without underlayers at all. That's what I do, though once in a great while I add a 1.5mm neoprene vest underneath for added torso warmth. Anything that goes inside had better fit tightly, because it's going to get clammy from sweat which would be nasty all bunched up if not a tight fit. Also, you want to avoid gaps that let water come through.
I am staying away from rear zipper suits|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Oct-28-12 10:42 AM (EST)
I really like the front double zippers for relief as my current over the shoulder velcro is a huge pain, having to strip down. Does anybody use a farmer john with a separate full top for windy days when spray is an issue?
Rear Zipper Suits Much Nicer |
Posted by: seadart on Oct-28-12 1:49 PM (EST)
Having the zipper right over your crotch in cold weather and cold water leads to unpleasantness if you are in the water or cold windy conditions.
Some have other zipper placements|
Posted by: pikabike on Oct-28-12 3:19 PM (EST)
I have a 3mm suit that uses a diagonal front zipper, plus short zips at the wrists and ankles. All of these make it easier to put on and take off than some other types.
It will bind you up a little|
Posted by: CapeFear on Oct-28-12 10:13 AM (EST)
Even the nice ones will feel a little restrictive. The farmer john definitely leaves you feeling less restricted. I have to go to full coverage for the winter months. I'm usually planning to get wet though.
Farmer John and paddling top|
Posted by: WaterMark on Oct-28-12 2:20 PM (EST)
My experience is that a full suit is too restrictive through the shoulders, and gives me a rash in the armpits, which is why a farmer john is more appropriate for paddling. For $100 or so (if you wait for a sale) you can get a paddling top to go with it, which is a good combination that will also give you protection from the wind.
Posted by: t.george on Oct-28-12 6:29 PM (EST)
3/2 farmer a polypro or fleecey (dependant on cold) then a paddle top. I also pair neo socks with 4-5mm booties.
another vote for surfer wetsuits|
Posted by: willowleaf on Oct-29-12 10:09 AM (EST)
The new stretchier soft neoprenes are way nicer than the old slick rubber diving wetsuit fabric that made you feel like you were stuffed in sausage casing.
Another vote for surf suits|
Posted by: Seadddict on Oct-29-12 12:06 PM (EST)
I like them much more than NRS or similar "paddling" wetsuits (sorry NRS). I've had O'Neill, my current suits are Aleeda.
Highly recommend |
Posted by: kwikle on Oct-29-12 12:21 PM (EST)
Posted by: jimyaker on Oct-29-12 5:06 PM (EST)
The Ultra John is very comfy and I've used my NRS brand suit for years with no problems. If you are planning to be in the water a lot, a surfing suit is fine, but for those who plan to be in their boats and just want protection on their core, a Farmer John or Shorty John is good down to about 40 degree water temps plus or minus depending on your build and tolerance for cold -- and your ability to self rescue in a timely manner.
I use a 3 MM Farmer John and 2mm Jacket|
Posted by: suntan on Oct-30-12 8:23 AM (EST)
Posted by: old_user on Oct-30-12 9:05 PM (EST)
I have a full wetsuit that I bought used of a surfer, no shortage of them here in San Diego. Its a good all around suit. But as winter approaches and I am paddling longer distances, I don't want binding in the arms.
wet suit |
Posted by: drjay9051 on Nov-01-12 9:06 AM (EST)
So I'm on the wetsuitwarehouse site and looking for winter wear. Never wore a wetsuit before.
Rash guard top- no bottom|
Posted by: seadart on Nov-01-12 11:36 AM (EST)
You'll get all kinds of answers but most people I know don't wear anything below the waist. Speedos are really uncomfortable in a wet suit- sack attack if you follow my drift. I use a rash guard top because it stops chaffing where the arms rub while paddling. Other people claim it chafes more, so you need to experiment. If you do use a rash guard top, make sure it fits very snugly, so you don't bunch up material to rub. Some people in cold weather use polypropylene underwear - long johns. It makes getting into the suit much easier, but I don't think it did much for warmth.
If there is chafing...|
Posted by: pikabike on Nov-01-12 11:54 PM (EST)
Smear on some BodyGlide stick "lube." It's like a giant Chapstick. It works. Plus it makes the suit go on and come off more easily. I bought it from a runner/triathlete store.