What do you change in habits, gear, setup, supplies, etc.
when the water cools down and the weather gets colder ?
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Not too many changes|
Posted by: magooch on Oct-20-12 11:27 AM (EST)
I start wearing a wetsuit and change from water booties to mukluks. If it gets cold enough, I might wear gloves.
Likely a slow winter for paddling but...|
Posted by: Celia on Oct-20-12 11:38 AM (EST)
what we have done in the past reflects living in the northeast. By middle of winter water can be in the high 30's, where it isn't frozen, air 30's to teens.
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-20-12 12:38 PM (EST)
not so much here|
Posted by: kayamedic on Oct-20-12 1:15 PM (EST)
Dried fruit when it freezes is most unpleasant.
Head to a warmer area|
Posted by: roanguy on Oct-20-12 11:51 AM (EST)
and still dress the same
For lake paddling|
Posted by: Waterbird on Oct-20-12 12:06 PM (EST)
I paddle until the lakes freeze, often on January 1. My system:
More rubber, more surf. |
Posted by: seadart on Oct-20-12 12:37 PM (EST)
Posted by: radskierman on Oct-20-12 3:03 PM (EST)
Dry suit with polypropylene and merino wool underneath. Mittens plus a spare pair, plus liners. Dry bag with complete change of merino underwear and fleece outerwear including wool hat as well as several chemical warmer packets and large towel. Extra granola bars and chocolate. Very careful about length of open water crossings and weather conditions before any long crossing. Practice rolls close to shore and take-out as opposed to wherever, whenever when it's warm out. Bottle of single malt in car for immediate access after paddle. Paddles usually shorter than warm water paddles (8-10 miles rather than 12-16 during warmer days.)
Truth is I am growing weary |
Posted by: rpg51 on Oct-20-12 8:51 PM (EST)
of cold water paddling. For years and years we have taken all our local extended trips in spring and fall, mostly to avoid people, but also for water levels. Either that or summer trips in the arctic which can be warm at time but always seem to involve some tough days. Last time we took a fall trip in Maine we ended up pinned on a rocky steep emergency site for night on Chesuncook and got out a day late with everyone at home scared to death we were in trouble and it was one heck of a hard night. Cooking in the tent. Thermarest sprung a leak. Ugh. I long for a warm weather trip. Maybe next summer. Guess I'm getting soft in my old age.
Noticed the same thing this year|
Posted by: Waterbird on Oct-20-12 9:50 PM (EST)
I hate the heat of summer, the crowded waters and campgrounds, and prices. So I take trips in the spring and fall (kayak, backpacking, car camping, etc.). As I get older I have to make more and more changes to make the experience tolerable. Exactly how much fun is it to have to light a fire at 4:30 p.m. and sit in the dark for the next 5 hours? Or go to bed at 7:00 and huddle in your tent in the cold for the next 12 hours?
Get a SPOT|
Posted by: kayamedic on Oct-20-12 10:31 PM (EST)
Posted by: Waterbird on Oct-21-12 9:51 AM (EST)
Plus it's terrible for old joints to be lying down in a tent for 12 hours straight. The trick is to go to bed as late as possible, which involves some labor-intensive hunting for wood and maintaining a fire. I like to read and write by the fire at night and in the early morning.
Love your posts !|
Posted by: roanguy on Oct-22-12 6:13 PM (EST)
they are right on!
Have you paddled at Lake Powell?|
Posted by: pikabike on Oct-20-12 11:00 PM (EST)
Fall there is not too crowded, and the water is still warm, days warm to hot, nights pleasantly mild. You can sleep under the stars (no bugs). Call out for echoes in many alcoves. Go swimming and hiking. Relax. It is a place I know I'll miss being (relatively) close to.
thermos of hot water|
Posted by: daggermat on Oct-21-12 6:29 AM (EST)
to warm up my neoprene gloves as needed. Drysuit, half poly sweats underneath.Mukluks. Towel, some clif bars, spare shirt and sweat pants in the drybag. Baggie of lint and a lighter.
Wetsuit...no more for me|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-21-12 12:04 PM (EST)
My awakening to dry suit heaven came after hanging
bottle of hot water ...|
Posted by: seadart on Oct-21-12 5:11 PM (EST)
Pour inside wet suit. Put on wetsuit. Ah nice and warm.
Mid 50's Water Temp...|
Posted by: sing on Oct-21-12 8:26 PM (EST)
Still alternating between the 3/2 and 4/3. Don't think I'll switch to the 5/4/3 until after Thanksgiving.
thank you for saying that|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-22-12 1:30 PM (EST)
I own both. Among my wetsuits I have a jacket, shorty, and 3mm farmers. Among my drysuits I have a top and full drysuit.
Hate wet and wind|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-22-12 4:49 PM (EST)
Never liked the idea of pouring water on a wetsuit;
you have the wrong hobby for that|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-23-12 9:39 AM (EST)
I get out of bed later|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-22-12 1:02 PM (EST)
I'm glad you said that|
Posted by: pikabike on Oct-22-12 5:19 PM (EST)
Same for me. Problem is, with daylight hours getting shorter, getting up late cuts into available-light time.
Posted by: sing on Oct-22-12 6:03 PM (EST)
nothing like being among the first (and few) to greet the rising sun and surf a post nor'easter groundswell.
Posted by: poleplant on Oct-23-12 8:17 AM (EST)
I go mtn. biking and skiing.
Rolling With Whatever...|
Posted by: sing on Oct-23-12 9:01 AM (EST)
What I do|
Posted by: rblturtle on Oct-23-12 9:30 AM (EST)
I switch to a dry suit for day trips. I switch to wool(the scratchy military surplus stuff) with lite poly underneath from poly/nylon for tripping. I also stay real close to shore when tripping-more to see that way anyway. I bring more clothes,footware and a warmer sleep bag. A fire,which I often do without in warm weather,is great,so I bring I saw ect. and pot trivit and sometimes a cotton fly to put my portable stove under in the rain. I drink more hot drinks. Because of taking more stuff, I paddle my big solo(Swift Osprey) to hold it all. I bring a headlamp and books for the long night and sitting up watching the fire helps pass dark time.
winter paddling habits|
Posted by: tdaniel on Oct-23-12 9:51 PM (EST)
I used to just stop paddling from November to March. The last few years I started trying to get out at least a couple of days each month. I pick my days according to the weather. I stay away from the high volume rivers (like the New) and more difficult runs and like to paddle small creeks. I carry a sleeping bag in my hatch for rewarming after a swim. Usually I wear a semi-dry suit, with fleece pajamas. I like to keep my hands warm. Sometimes I'll wear both Pogies and neoprene gloves. Very important to get all the wrinkles out of the sprayskirt on your stomache and back so water doesn't puddle up on you. I wear wool socks over my drysuit feet and put on booties. An old rug or mat is helpful for changing, standing on, so I don't mess up the dry suit feet. I always wear a beanie to prevent ice cream headaches if I should flip but that sometimes causes me to overheat. It takes forever to get dressed and undressed (I'm fatter, and slower in the winter) but it feels great to get out and now I actually look forward to winter paddling. In the winter all my paddling trips become short day trips but that's what I do most of the time, anyhow. The biggest problem I have is finding like minded folks to paddle with. Most of the whitewater crowd that paddle in the winter like harder runs. I definately step it down a notch. I've experienced a cold water swim on the New River 20 years ago and learned to respect how quickly cold water zaps you. I can't imagine doing that again- older, fatter but wiser.
Consensus seems to be|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-24-12 11:50 AM (EST)
I love fall paddling|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-24-12 12:09 PM (EST)
Water temps can hang on a bit longer than air temps before dropping.
cold weather paddling|
Posted by: ppine on Oct-24-12 1:06 PM (EST)
Posted by: rjd9999 on Oct-24-12 6:34 PM (EST)
Since I always seem to be in cold water (
Ice shelf - take out after an excursion|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-26-12 12:59 PM (EST)
The concept of an old sealed tight bleach bottle