-- Last Updated: Oct-19-12 8:11 AM EST --
I got a lot of great advice here on my boat choice. Now my Inuit 13.5 just arrived, and so far the fit seems right on. I have a couple of question for other owners though, as a couple of things seem different from the website descriptions I had found.
First off, the foot pegs. From what I've seen on the web, this boat was supposed to come with rod-adjustable oversized ergonomic foot pads. The one I got has the cheap pinch-and-slide pegs, that you have to grab to move. Is that how they're supposed to be now? I noticed that when it was still called Native they advertised that, but Liquidlogic is mum on this - did they do away with that?
Also, the hatch covers are VERY loose. Pretty much falling off. I wonder if they mis-matched them or something, I asked the company.
And lastly, it seems VERY light! It is said to be quite heavy, but it feels much lighter than boats listed at 4-5 lbs less than this boat's supposed 55 lbs. I was expecting a thick, tough hull, as they claim they use the same design employed in their WW boats, but this hull seems really dainty to me…
Any thoughts from current owners would be much appreciated.
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just remembered this vid|
Posted by: sapien on Oct-18-12 11:27 PM (EST)
toward the end, some design changes to the Marvel & Inuit series are talked about to bring the price down from past years:
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-19-12 12:04 AM (EST)
He actually says specifically that they dropped the foot braces. Oh, well, too bad.
I'd be curious to take a look at it...|
Posted by: sapien on Oct-19-12 2:53 PM (EST)
the Native-branded Inuits I've seen looked like excellent quality. I recall being impressed by the bulkheads and the overall fit & finish. Wondering what other manufacturing changes were made in transitioning it to the LL brand and bringing down the price. LL's whitewater boats are certainly known for being pretty bomber.
That's the assumption I was going on!|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-19-12 3:42 PM (EST)
I think you mentioned you were in the DC area. We could certainly meet on the water (or off) and I'd be happy to get your opinion. Is there any private message option here? I'm on the Maryland side, close to the city.
there's no PM|
Posted by: sapien on Oct-19-12 6:32 PM (EST)
but you can email me via the icon below this post. I'm in VA near the Occoquan Reservoir and a few other great paddling opportunities.
Foot braces are easily swapped out|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-19-12 12:06 AM (EST)
I can replace that|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-19-12 12:21 PM (EST)
Thanks, the foot pegs are not a huge deal really. Anyone have any advice on the hatch cover issue though? The rear one looks like it would fall off if I just turn the boat upside down and shake it... Technically I could return the boat, but I'm not going to do that over a hatch cover, seems silly and just the schlepping to and from the store makes it not worth it. Is there something I can do myself, like add a gasket or something? Does anyone know where I can order the replacements? The company just said "contact the dealer and they can order a replacement". I'll ask REI to do it, but is there a faster solution? And is this a common problem for these boats?
Contact LL Customer Service|
Posted by: sapien on Oct-19-12 2:30 PM (EST)
I had a LL Coupe that also had ill-fitting hatch covers, so it could be a supplier QA issue. "Obie" was very responsive and sent replacement covers that fit better, as well as an improved design skeg wire.
they do seem great|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-19-12 3:44 PM (EST)
I got in touch with Ben from Legacy, my contact in LL customer service, who has already been helpful in the choice and fit. He immediately offered to send replacements, and I will confirm a couple of details and measurements with him. This speed and availability certainly bodes well for a future relationship with the company.
A hatch cover should be tight|
Posted by: FrankNC on Oct-19-12 6:11 PM (EST)
If not a wave will take it right off at the worst time possible. You'll be having trouble in waves higher than you are used to paddling and then you'll be dealing with a sinking boat. Bad deal. Don't just accept this. Find a way to modify the boat so the hatch is held down or send the boat back and get a safe one.
Pegs will be a problem|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-19-12 7:42 PM (EST)
Nothing sucks more than having a peg fail
Hatch Covers = Safety|
Posted by: Kocho on Oct-19-12 11:04 PM (EST)
The covers should be secure and nearly waterproof (if not entirely waterproof). They should withstand self rescues and rescue attempts and should not budge when hit by waves or rapids. It is very dangerous for them to open or let lots of water in - try it some day during pool practice this winter (you do plan to check the pool days at CPAKayaker.com, right?) to see what happens to your stability and your ability to directionally control the boat with water in one or more hatches...
safety is my concern too|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-20-12 7:54 AM (EST)
…and now you guys are scaring me! Thanks :)
DIY is an option|
Posted by: Kocho on Oct-20-12 9:19 AM (EST)
one thing that might be worth a try|
Posted by: sapien on Oct-20-12 11:01 AM (EST)
3M #84901 protection film strip -- made for protecting the edge of car doors. applied on the perimeter of the hatch rims, it might add enough of a layer to make the covers fit tighter.
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-20-12 6:25 PM (EST)
boat on the water = bitching aborted|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-21-12 5:09 PM (EST)