I am in a position to choose out of a number of boats REI sells, up to $1100 - kind of a price limit gift deal type of thing, long story...
My main issue is that the choice I have for trying out/demoing boats is limited, more so now that the season is closing, and I need advice on boat fit from other owners.
I am looking at a touring boat, my skill level is beginner-intermediate. I can roll reliably on on-side, do basic rescues, and have a working understanding of proper paddling technique, to build on in the future. So, I want a boat I won't "grow out of" any time soon. Length should be at most 14.5 (15 stretching it) due to storage and other factors.
Most importantly, boat fit: I am 5'10", 150-153 lbs, reasonably fit, relatively long legged.
Here are the options: Liquidlogic Inuit 13.5; Point 65 XO 13 (a bit concerned about the width - 25" is kind of wide); Perception Expression 15 (wondering if it might be too big for me); (with a big question mark) Hurricane Santee 135 (seems to have a huge cockpit, more of a rec boat). Any thoughts? Anyone know how the size of the above-described body would work with these boats? :)
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Posted by: Seadart on Oct-12-12 4:24 PM (EST)
REI is not a great place to buy a kayak.
one of the downsides to REI|
Posted by: Peter-CA on Oct-12-12 5:05 PM (EST)
One of the downsides to REI is that you can't go and test boats except the few times they have their demos. Also, they don't usually have a lot of these boats on the floor for you to even sit in. Unless you are using rebate money and are locked in to REI, it might be better to look at local kayak shops instead.
Thanks, but I actually AM locked to REI|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-12-12 5:21 PM (EST)
Excellent points all around, but I am sort of locked into REI here. I had ordered a boat they were closing out, and they messed up the order. They are therefore offering to match the price with any of their boats up to 1100. I had ordered a Perception Expression 14.5. That one would have been a relatively tight fit. I wonder how the Inuit compares - I know that numbers tell a partial story at best, so I can't really go by that.
the Inuit 13.5 is a tight fitting boat|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Oct-12-12 6:45 PM (EST)
It is quite a bit tighter than the 12.5 and 14.5. The Inuit is a great all around boat, just a little heavy. I have a 12.5 and It sees a lot of use in choppy water and winds. I am 6' 190lbs with a 32" waist and the larger 12.5 and 14.5 are a snug fit for me. Unless you are very slender and have shoes under size 10.5 I would go with the 14.5 Inuit over the 13.5.
Last time I checked|
Posted by: bowrudder on Oct-13-12 1:58 PM (EST)
REI had a sort of 'no fault' return policy. You could return anything for any reason. A return policy that good shouldn't be abused, but if they screwed up the order (as it sounds), then why don't you simply get a refund? I have NEVER heard of anyone being "locked in" to a purchase at REI. You are a first.
Posted by: RavenWing on Oct-12-12 8:16 PM (EST)
Posted by: edzep on Oct-12-12 8:39 PM (EST)
I just did a search for 'dagger alchemy 799' and didn't get anything. Had recently done similar searches for sale, close out, etc.
a bit away from you, but|
Posted by: Peter-CA on Oct-12-12 9:12 PM (EST)
Here is a listing from a California shop (close to me, but not you) that has them for $949.
not in SE U.S.|
Posted by: RavenWing on Oct-14-12 10:57 AM (EST)
way north of you.
Posted by: edzep on Oct-14-12 12:11 PM (EST)
Well, I could hope. Those prices would be too good to resist.
Modify padding - enjoy the REI points|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-12-12 8:21 PM (EST)
Paddling and seating can always be modified,
no refund possible?|
Posted by: Patuxent on Oct-12-12 8:35 PM (EST)
Its too bad that you can't just get a refund and look at better selections elsewhere - or take the cash and buy a lighter used fiberglass boat.
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-12-12 9:08 PM (EST)
I think you would fit|
Posted by: sapien on Oct-12-12 10:39 PM (EST)
in the Inuit 13.5, and it's a nicely-made boat with a very comfortable seat... but yeah, you would want at least a test-sit. the hip pads are adjustable. I see you're in the DC area, if you want to come by and sit in my Tsunami 135, which is similar dimensions but actually a bit smaller than the Inuit. the review posted on REI for the Inuit compares the two.
Posted by: ShadyClip on Oct-13-12 11:31 AM (EST)
Just looking at your choices at REI and the kayak specs it would seem that the Expression 15 would be your best bet.
Wait! Until a SALE comes|
Posted by: Kocho on Oct-13-12 12:14 PM (EST)
Posted by: ShadyClip on Oct-13-12 12:39 PM (EST)
Just keep in mind that are a bunch of exclusions on what gets included in the refund, according to REI:
We don't know what the OP bought...|
Posted by: Kocho on Oct-13-12 4:24 PM (EST)
... and wether got the 10% refund. But, if the OP did get it, I think it can be used on anything, right? And he's got store credit as far as I understand, so that should be good on just about anything too... Might not get a new divident on using it...
Posted by: bowrudder on Oct-13-12 1:53 PM (EST)
lots of choices in DC area|
Posted by: Patuxent on Oct-13-12 2:08 PM (EST)
thanks for the additional tips|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-13-12 7:33 PM (EST)
I'm pretty sure the refund wouldn't be an issue, I had already checked that I could return the boat in store if it didn't fit when I ordered it. What happened is that they messed up the shipment, it never got to me, and being the great customer-oriented business they are (I am just learning this about them and liking it…) they wanted to offer me additional options.
Try with low-profile paddling shoes on!|
Posted by: Kocho on Oct-14-12 9:28 AM (EST)
I much prefer to have a kayak that fits me with paddling shoes on - even if they are low profile. Unfortunately, most kayaks do not fit me with shoes as I have very large feet and long legs. For you it should not be an issue, hopefully, but consider that when you test-sit. Unless of course, you like to be barefoot, in which case it would be OK to have a tighter fit under a low deck...
End of season|
Posted by: Waterbird on Oct-13-12 8:07 PM (EST)
I think your challenge is going to be that it's the end of the season and selection is going to be very limited. How about waiting until next season and asking if they will give you the same conditions (sale or whatever applied to this purchase)?
some additional info|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-15-12 10:18 AM (EST)
My Inuit is one of the most used boats|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Oct-16-12 9:39 PM (EST)
The Inuit 12.5 is the shortest "touring" boat in my fleet but it is nearly never left at home. The Inuit design may be overlooked by many as a rec boat for being short and wide but it is a great rough water boat, and it can keep up with boats several feet longer with not much higher effort. The seating is adjustable to who ever gets in it, and is comfortable for long trips. I do not think you could go wrong with any of the Inuit boats.
Posted by: old_user on Oct-15-12 9:49 PM (EST)
Where are you located? I haven't seen that in any of your posts. If you're anywhere near NW Oregon, email me or something. I have a Tempest 165 and a Perception Essence 17 you're welcome to come sit in or even test paddle.
Stay away from Point 65N|
Posted by: PHILIPJEDLICKA on Oct-16-12 7:08 AM (EST)
Point 65N has horrible quality. I will never buy anything again from them.
I ended up with the Inuit|
Posted by: rocdoc on Oct-18-12 9:39 PM (EST)