Is this practical?
Posted by: old_user on Oct-04-12 1:24 AM (EST) Category: Kayaks
Hello, my friends and I are planning on making a weekend kayak trip, and want to know if its practical. We are leaving from Corvallis, OR on Friday about 9:30 PM, and want to make it too Portland,OR by Sunday afternoon. We know its gonna be rough, but we think we can make it. Non of us are very experienced kayakers, but we're pretty athletic, and are planning on doing a lot of paddling to make it in time. We're planning on taking sleeping shifts during the night and staying on the water. We're gonna go on land for the waterfall, and walk around it. Do you guys think this is possible? And do you have any advice? Thanks for the help.
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Posted by: seadart on Oct-04-12 6:51 AM (EST)
Not even a little|
Posted by: Celia on Oct-04-12 8:07 AM (EST)
81 miles between the two by road, and the river wiggles enough to add at least another third of that distance.
have a solid plan|
Posted by: nickjc on Oct-04-12 2:53 PM (EST)
I've done lots of 40 mile days in a kayak, and 20+ hour days of climbing and various ultra endurance activities and it's not 'fun' by most peoples standard but I get the attraction of seeing what you can do.
Why do people think paddling is easy ?|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-04-12 3:33 PM (EST)
no need to be flippant|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-04-12 3:51 PM (EST)
He asked what you thought, so clearly, hew didn't think it would be easy. Goodness.
Death isn't sugar coated|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-04-12 8:34 PM (EST)
What's the relevance|
Posted by: guideboatguy on Oct-04-12 8:48 PM (EST)
River is decent for year round paddling|
Posted by: seadart on Oct-04-12 9:11 PM (EST)
Actually it's a nice water path for relative flatwater paddling and recommended year round by Oregon State recreation. You just need some more experience and a better idea of what a 100+ mile continuous paddle is like. You are going to be very very very uncomfortable.
get yourself some help|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-05-12 4:06 PM (EST)
First, learn ho to read (posts besides your own)
No one likes to see noobs die|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-05-12 7:35 PM (EST)
Posted by: abc on Oct-05-12 7:39 PM (EST)
Third, learn to write complete sentence that are longer than 6 word sound bite!
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-06-12 10:36 PM (EST)
Posted by: guideboatguy on Oct-04-12 4:10 PM (EST)
You mentioned someone dying on the water near cliffs and rugged terrain, so I looked at air photos of the locale and see that the area around this river is as flat as central Illinois. Somehow you thought temperatures in the mid-40s in June, occurring at SOME location nearby, is relevant so I checked water temperatures midway along the route, and they are fluctuating roughly between 55 and 60 in recent days. That's not good for swimming but not colder than I would have expected for this time of year, and not something a near-shore river paddler needs to consider "fatal" in the event of a capsize. Having extra clothes in dry storage and mostly not straying too far from shore would be precaution enough for most people.
where i live|
Posted by: radiomix on Oct-05-12 5:40 PM (EST)
Ice freezes at 32.
lots of missing information|
Posted by: willowleaf on Oct-04-12 5:24 PM (EST)
You've had a range of responses, but I would find it hard to respond myself not knowing what your paddling experience has been to date and how you were equipped.
My feeling is |
Posted by: rpg51 on Oct-04-12 6:45 PM (EST)
if you have to ask if its practical then its probably not practical.
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Oct-04-12 7:15 PM (EST)
Posted by: guideboatguy on Oct-04-12 8:28 PM (EST)
In spite of what I said above about the idea that some people might actually succeed at this, it looks like they really haven't paddled enough to know how tough it will be. They probably haven't even paddled enough to experience how a good bit of practice will multiply the distance that can be covered with reasonable effort, and this will go WAY beyond reasonable effort.
I have to ask|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Oct-04-12 8:52 PM (EST)
Is this serious? Or just a troll? I hate to call something a troll if the OP is proposing doing something they really intend to do that could result in a disaster, which it sounds like it would. But this really sounds like a novice nightmare.
I love Disco|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-05-12 12:19 AM (EST)
Let's hope they dressed for cold nights
Posted by: kilifiman on Oct-05-12 12:36 AM (EST)
Have you checked into the feasibility of the portage at Oregon City? It may take way more time than you think. Why not start at Salem and make it a shorter trip? You can do the more challenging trip once you have more experience. Will it be new or full moon? Having done a little night paddling many many years ago, I would not do it again on a river I was not very familiar with - even one as apparently lazy as the Willamette.
Posted by: abc on Oct-05-12 10:02 AM (EST)
very practical suggestion. abc|
Posted by: willowleaf on Oct-05-12 10:26 AM (EST)
I hope they try it (the ten mile trial paddle).
better yet, ten hour|
Posted by: jcbikeski on Oct-05-12 11:42 AM (EST)
have some bail out points if it becomes to much and see how ten hours feels during daylight. Then learn what hazards there are along the rest of the route that could be a problem at night. Then do some shorter section with good bail outs at night to be sure. I personally have a policy to not do any land or water wilderness journey without having done the same route by day to understand the hazards.
Well, the weather is right|
Posted by: magooch on Oct-05-12 12:56 PM (EST)
If you do go ahead with the plan, let us know how it went--or let us know why you changed your minds.
i dont know the river|
Posted by: radiomix on Oct-05-12 12:32 PM (EST)
If the trip is 100 miles, and there is a current of 2 miles per hour you would be able to do it in 20 hours or so. If you don't stop a lot, are in really good paddling shape, and have put the seat time in. Having paddled this distance a few times all at once, its not comfortable. I won't say its not fun, because I keep doing it, but its not comfortable. I have no idea bout this portage or night travel conditions. If there is any concern about river hazards I would probably just travel by day light.
local pdx paddler|
Posted by: phrancis on Oct-05-12 3:31 PM (EST)
I'm a fairly experienced kayaker from the portland area and I have to say your schedule sounds like a bad idea. The waters here are cold enough and low - lots of rocks just under the surface in certain narrow stretches. Paddling at night in unfamiliar waters is a good way of making it on the local evening news.
Posted by: rnsparky on Oct-05-12 7:49 PM (EST)
Yes, go for it!
Does anyone but me think this person |
Posted by: shirlann on Oct-06-12 8:54 AM (EST)
is really serious? There's almost a lack of seriousness, besides their seeming to be a lack of common sense.
I think it's a troll.|
Posted by: FrankNC on Oct-06-12 10:19 AM (EST)
The original poster has not added any more since the first post; and it definitely seems like the type of question that if asked, the answer should be no.
troll or ignorant|
Posted by: abc on Oct-06-12 8:44 PM (EST)
Could be a troll. If so, it failed. There's not disagreement that it's impractical. End of story.
When was the last time you did a 30|
Posted by: roanguy on Oct-07-12 5:32 AM (EST)
mile day ?
It's no biggie - with technique|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Oct-07-12 11:37 AM (EST)
Arm paddlers simply can't - small muscle, fatigues fast.
Wind, current, rain -|
Posted by: rpg51 on Oct-07-12 12:45 PM (EST)
big factors. An 8 - 10 hour day paddling is not my style but certainly there are people that do this sort of thing. But seems like no matter how experienced you are if you've got a hard headwind its going to be a task.
Posted by: rjd9999 on Oct-07-12 3:21 PM (EST)
There are certainly some areas of the Williamette that are not conducive to paddling (especially at night) and I'm not sure you could safely bypass Oregon City, at all. This milltown with its waterfall in the center of the river will, I believe, be only passible through the locks.