I have and use a lot Keen sandles with the covered toes (H20?). I really like them mostly,but they don't get good traction on wet rocks when lining. I really don't want to buy new sandles. Ideas? Tractionising? Solvent treatment? Regrouving?, I may be dating myself if you don't reconize these terms.
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Posted by: radiomix on Oct-03-12 12:22 PM (EST)
If really yet to find a pair of sandal type water shoes that get good traction on the really slippery rocks. My keens and current chacos are marginal, and my new tevas are about the same. Chaco used to make a water sole that was amazing, but they phased it out, or its special order.
Feel Like Experimenting?|
Posted by: Kudzu on Oct-03-12 12:51 PM (EST)
Posted by: Lanky189 on Oct-03-12 1:43 PM (EST)
My merrels have siping which is many many lateral slits that allow the rubber to grip the rocks. I rarely slip if ever. Im no mountain goat but other paddlers with lesser shoes know the difference.
Astral Buoyancy Brewer|
Posted by: Marshall on Oct-03-12 2:13 PM (EST)
Looks terrestrial enough to use daily non-boating purposes. Five-10 makes the sole out of it's Stealth Rubber so it's just about stick enough to make you feel like Spider Man on slime covered rocks. Not saying I know how Spider Man would feel on slime covered rocks mind you, just a figure (albeit muzzy one) of speech.
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-03-12 3:08 PM (EST)
I am thinking a carefully guided dremel and about 15 minutes.
similar lines ...|
Posted by: onnopaddle on Oct-03-12 4:17 PM (EST)
wire wheel them ?
OK-I give up|
Posted by: rblturtle on Oct-05-12 1:35 PM (EST)
I guess my best bet would be a new pair of sandles with a great gripping sole. I really like the covered toe open rest sandle type like my Keens.I don't want a water sneaker type. suggestions?
Bean Explorer Sandals; traction|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Oct-05-12 4:19 PM (EST)
I compared the Bean Explorer sandals head-to-head against various Keen sandals a couple of years ago, and thought the Beans won on every count for both a land and canoeing sandal -- flexibility, weight, comfort and cost.
Posted by: gibsonra on Oct-06-12 8:49 AM (EST)
If they are mainly for water consider the felt that fly fisherman use on waders. It's unreal and glues easily.
Thumbs up for felt|
Posted by: clarion on Oct-06-12 9:03 AM (EST)
I had a pair of Dagger paddle shoes that had partial felt bottoms and they were fantastic. No slippage on rocks, ever. I never thought about buying felt and putting it on other paddle shoes. I think I'm going to try it now that you suggested it. Thanks.
Disadvantages and controversie over felt|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Oct-06-12 9:59 AM (EST)
Not all felt is the same. There is wool felt, fur felt and different ways of making felt.
If the put in or take out is treacherous|
Posted by: clarion on Oct-06-12 11:22 AM (EST)
.... the amount of time spent on the rocks doesn't matter, especially carrying a heavy boat. If I get hurt at this stuff it will probably be scuttling over slippery rocks. Felt is good insurance.
Just to explore this a little more|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Oct-06-12 11:59 AM (EST)
First of all, the topic is high traction sandals. I'm not sure there are any felt-soled sandals, but it could be a good experiment to glue felt on the bottom of some old sandals and see if it works.
Fishermen/ladies have dealt with this |
Posted by: rpg51 on Oct-06-12 12:42 PM (EST)
issue for generations. The history is the felt soles took over the market for a long long time and they do work very well and stick to slime covered rock extremely well. But as is pointed out above, in the last few years felt soles have been banned in many places (including Vermont I know) and so they are not even being manufactured anymore. What has replaced them are soles made of special "rubber" formulations that are soft and stick on rock reasonably well. Also, there are souls of this new material with studs, not unlike you see in studded snow tires. If you look around at good fly fishing stores/websites you will find various options.
wow, good point about aquatic invasives |
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-12-12 12:34 PM (EST)
transfer. If this is a genuine problem, and it sounds like it is, it can't be overstated.
Posted by: rblturtle on Oct-06-12 4:30 PM (EST)
I use my Keens for everything in warm weather including up to 4 mile carrys so felt or glue probibly won't last. On trips with long carrys I bring only one pair of shoes to keep weight down. Thanks for the ideas.
Posted by: rpg51 on Oct-06-12 6:02 PM (EST)
I'll start going on trips in warm weather again. We've been tripping in May and October for years to keep away from the red necked bi peds. A warm weather trip would be sooooo nice.
Keen done me wrong|
Posted by: mr_canoehead on Oct-07-12 8:02 PM (EST)
I bought a pair of those sandals at a year-end clearance sale, and used them the next year. In very short order they seemed to disolve - the stitching came out of the upper and the sole de-laminated. I contacted Keen and they told me too bad, as I didn't have my receipt.
Posted by: rpg51 on Oct-07-12 8:48 PM (EST)
I have to say, I would be afraid to wear sandals on a canoe or kayak trip. I suppose maybe I might wear them in camp - but even then I am so darn clumsy there would be a high likelihood of injured feet.
I have had my Keen H2s for years.|
Posted by: string on Oct-11-12 8:50 PM (EST)
They are faded and beat up and keep on keeping on.
Thats good but do you wear them in|
Posted by: kayamedic on Oct-11-12 8:52 PM (EST)
Canadian Shield country the heart and soul of head cracking fungi? I believe the OP was about grippiness, not longevity.
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-12-12 12:32 PM (EST)
four years and counting, two weeklong kayak trips, two backcountry hiking trips.
Look for Vibram|
Posted by: kayamedic on Oct-07-12 9:03 PM (EST)
Vibram 5 Fingers|
Posted by: 123Abuelo on Oct-08-12 7:51 AM (EST)
Has anyone tried a shoe like these?
Posted by: carldelo on Oct-11-12 11:06 PM (EST)
I liked mine, they were great inside a somewhat restrictive SOF. The sole is a great combination of protection and flexibility. But if your foot and toes aren't the right proportions, they don't work. My two smallest toes were always falling out, so I finally had to sell them.
Sell them? To whom?|
Posted by: tktoo on Oct-12-12 8:57 AM (EST)
Wait, nevermind, I don't really want to know.
Posted by: carldelo on Oct-12-12 1:22 PM (EST)
I sold them to someone with normal toes. They didn't have cooties, cuz I washed them well.
Posted by: rblturtle on Oct-12-12 11:18 AM (EST)
Which model 5 finger did you get? The ones that are for water don't have much tread.The ones with tread arn't recomended for water.
Posted by: carldelo on Oct-12-12 1:24 PM (EST)
it was the water model with neo uppers, KSO maybe? I bought them at NY Kayak several years back, and the model may be different now. There wasn't a high-profile tread, but I remember them being fairly grippy.
Posted by: rblturtle on Oct-13-12 2:51 PM (EST)
Well, I broke down and ordered some 5 finger KSO's. I go barefoot a lot anyway and always wished for better "skin traction". They won't work for long carrys,but might be just the thing for me to monkey around on rocks,and tree obstructions on local creeks. I won't know how they work till next year.
Posted by: rblturtle on Oct-18-12 1:06 PM (EST)
I recieved my Five Fingers Vibram KSO's this AM. Have worn them since then. As a country boy who grew up barefoot, I think they will be great for climbing over treejam obsticals with monkey feet. For 4mi carrys??
Posted by: kybishop on Oct-20-12 1:16 PM (EST)