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A simple spec sheet would show these boats as darn near the same, but of course their shape is different. Eddyline does not explicitly address how the two are designed for different purposes, which they must be or Eddyline presumably would not offer both. Based on the available info, can someone here offer their sense of how these differ in their intended use? FYI, the Raven is not on their comparison chart yet. (Full disclosure: I own a Fathom.)
Edit: for example; the surfing video on the Raven page is cool -- perhaps the Fathom is not as well suited to that use (but could do it)??
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Posted by: flip70 on Oct-02-12 11:50 AM (EST)
2 of my friends have the fathom. They like it because the front deck height gives them more foot-room. I have the nighthawk & it looks like the raven has a flatter front deck like nighthawk. Not a lot of room for big feet.
Posted by: RavenWing on Oct-02-12 12:13 PM (EST)
the Raven has a much lower back deck than the Fathom and most Eddyline seakayaks. Facilitates rolls. The seakayakers around here who know the regional rep have been asking for this for years. Finally they got it. Nice looking boat.
Posted by: Kocho on Oct-02-12 7:24 PM (EST)
Looks like a nice short-ish touring kayak that would be happy in lumpy conditions. I don't think it will be in the league of true "ocean playboats" like the P&H Delphin or the Tidrace Xtreme in terms of playfulness. From the short video of the Raven being paddled on the Skook wave, it looks like it does not have a huge bow rocker and the bow tends to slice rather than pop over (compared to something like the Delphin or the Whisky 16 for instance). Also, I did not get the impression that it was "carving" turns particularly well there, with the bow tending to cause broaching more easily than I would think someone who is in sea kayak playboat/surfing stuff would want to...
Raven and Fathom|
Posted by: george4908 on Oct-02-12 10:47 PM (EST)
Being interested in these boats, I recently asked two Eddyline reps about the differences. Here's what they wrote:
excellent (and what's rake?)|
Posted by: tetonjohn on Oct-03-12 10:27 AM (EST)
Thanks for sharing those comments from the reps, just what I was looking for.
Posted by: falcon on Oct-04-12 4:09 PM (EST)
I replied to your newer post.
Posted by: TheArmchairKayaker on Oct-03-12 2:12 PM (EST)
Raven vs Fathom|
Posted by: ebersold on Oct-03-12 1:22 PM (EST)
My guess is...|
Posted by: ByronWalter on Oct-03-12 2:33 PM (EST)
...that a little RockPool DNA rubbed off on Eddyline from the RP/Eddy love child Alaw Bach TCC. Also doesn't Eddyline assist in shipping some of Sterling's kayaks?
I was thinking that too|
Posted by: bowrudder on Oct-09-12 11:01 PM (EST)
Slap a name on it that you've had in the family for umpteen years, even though the two boats are nothing alike, and voila!
good post. thank you|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-03-12 3:07 PM (EST)
Posted by: NCKT on Oct-05-12 12:15 AM (EST)
Tried the Raven(will have one soon) and I do own a Fathom as well many other Eddyline and kayaks/canoes. Like it has been said allready, the Raven is fun in waves and turns nice. Fathom is faster in wind and flat water. If I am touring and packing the boat I take the Fathom. For a sporty day paddle I will take the Raven. Best if you thinking of one or the other, try them both and in fact add in the Fathom LV as well. Everything Happy paddler said is spot on, but always try before you buy , better yet, rent for the day. demos are good, but a few minutes in a boat doesn't cut it for me.
I had the Fathom LV|
Posted by: ByronWalter on Oct-05-12 4:25 PM (EST)
...and was amazed by the amount of junk I could fit in that small kayak. I put my sleeping bag and sleeping pad in a dry bag and wedged that in the cockpit ahead of the foot pegs. That left tons of room for everything else.
Posted by: ppine on Oct-05-12 5:20 PM (EST)
I have paddled several Eddyline kayaks from their store in Anacortes. The Raven has so much rocker it doesn't feel like other sea kayaks. It is perfect for paddling the confused seas around the San Juan Islands when the prevailing chop, wind and tides around islands, barge traffic, and ferry wakes converge. It tracks better with a load on, but I liked it immediately.
Posted by: falcon on Oct-08-12 10:03 AM (EST)
Are you referring to the original fiberglass Raven? The new Raven is distinctly different and is just now becoming available to dealers.