Well now, someone is upset ...
Posted by: nebeginner on Oct-02-12 7:27 AM (EST)
"I don't know where you get your info from, but the cost to Tiderace in building their boats means their margins are considerably lower than those of other British manufacturers."
Where do you get yours from?
"The first step in the logic, is that Valley, PH, Rockpool and NDK all make their boats in-house, so they save on the cost of production by not having to make a third party company some profit for doing so."
But their labor cost is night and day compared to Thailand. And in England, as in the US, there cost of manufacturing is considerably higher due to labor and environmental laws. Cost of materials are higher due to the same reasons. Isn't the whole proposition for shifting production to an extreme low cost market like Thailand is that it is more profitable?
"materials and processes used by Cobra are much more expensive than those used by those other manufacturers in producing the boats."
How so? Where do the materials come from? Would they not be cheaper in a county with lower import fees and less restrictions? And cheaper still for materials that could be sourced locally, based on the lower production costs?
Or are you saying the materials themselves are more better? If so, how do you know that?
Or is the process is is more expensive in Thailand? How so? Isn't labor dirt cheap? And lower government rules and regulations on manufacturing, i.e safety, use and disposal of chemicals, etc, cheaper in Thailand? Isn't that why Cobra is there and not in the US, Canada, England, or France, in the first place?
"The third is that Cobra are not a cheap place to build boats. The Cobra built Tiderace boats are far, far higher specification than the ones built in Finland by Charger and it is not cheaper to build them in Thailand than it was in Finland. "
Higher specifications? "far far" higher? How so? Or is it again the cost of labor and manufacturing ... this time in Finland ... and the "far far higher" specifications imposed on Finish manufacturers by way of environmental and labor laws?
"cost of shipping boats by 20' or 40' container from Thailand before the boats reach either Europe or the US, whereas the others are based in Europe and have much lower shipping costs."
But again, the proposition of Asian manufacturing factors that in, right?
"Frankly, I wish people who didn't have the foggiest clueregarding what they're talking about would stop talking as if they did."
Hey, I'm just questioning, not trying to state facts. You seem to be doing that. How so? Please explain your knowledge of these things. That perhaps may explain why this topic has ruffled your feathers so much. You seem very defensive about Tiderace quality ... trying to paint Cobra as some shining light for superior glass manufacturing.
They may be, but one simple fact I do know: no manufacturer goes to the opposite side of the globe to manufacture their product unless there is a significant profit opportunity to offset the lack of hands-on oversight of the process.