Tiderace xcite S
Posted by: jay on Aug-11-12 8:31 PM (EST) Category: Kayaks
Anyone have seat time in a Tiderace xcite S?
Was wondering what kind of glide or speed the boat
has if doing flat water paddles. Is it comparable
to a avocet or similar 16' boat? Was thinking of a
xcite s for a main boat that could pull double duty
as a play boat and short touring boat.
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Posted by: suiram on Aug-12-12 10:50 AM (EST)
It should be compared to VCP Avocet LV and SKUK Pilgrim.
Posted by: magooch on Aug-12-12 10:59 AM (EST)
I've paddled just about all of the Tiderace boats. I like the looks of their boats a lot and they do seem well built, but my initial impressions were not up to my expectations. I didn't care much for the seat and the top speed seemed to be limited by premature stern squat. Their handling aspects seemed to be their strong suit. No doubt they would be good in textured conditions.
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Posted by: jay on Aug-12-12 12:35 PM (EST)
So the TR xcite S is comparable to other 16' for
Posted by: suiram on Aug-12-12 7:11 PM (EST)
Try to get some seat time in SKUK Pilgrim Expedition
Posted by: nickjc on Aug-13-12 12:24 PM (EST)
Moving the seat forward .5-1 inch will loosen the hull tracking.
Posted by: otterslide on Aug-13-12 3:21 PM (EST)
When my wife was in the market for a new boat, one issue was efficiency.
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Posted by: jay on Aug-13-12 7:37 PM (EST)
Have you considered|
Posted by: magooch on Aug-14-12 11:54 AM (EST)
A 17'-2" NC. In the Lt. version, they are very light, fast and stable. The handling might not be as quick as a comparable Tiderace, but the NC will spoil you when you get it in the big stuff, or for that matter on flat water if you want to cover some miles. And they're American made.
NC? what is a NC kayak? |
Posted by: thirstyturtle on Aug-14-12 3:27 PM (EST)
Posted by: old_user on Aug-14-12 8:29 PM (EST)
Novus Composites, IIRC. I think they're a 'direct-order' company, i.e. no dealers, and probably no 'try before you buy'.
You can try an NC with us . . . |
Posted by: water_walker on Aug-18-12 12:27 PM (EST)
We are an NC Kayaks affiliate located in midcoast Maine and offer the opportunity to test paddle their boats.
Posted by: jsmarch on Aug-16-12 9:39 AM (EST)
I you're going to look at the Cetus, try the Xplore-S: very fast, easy to maneuver, great fit, and the center hatch design is much better than on the Cetus. I have an Xplore M, and love it.
Posted by: jay on Aug-16-12 2:09 PM (EST)
Had alot of people recommond a xplore s, so I went
Posted by: RavenWing on Aug-16-12 3:30 PM (EST)
that's a fine pick given your priorities.
re: Xplore S|
Posted by: old_user on Aug-16-12 4:13 PM (EST)
So Jay, what do you think of the Xplore S so far?
Posted by: jay on Aug-16-12 4:50 PM (EST)
Still has to be picked up! I did the one thing you
There is no way...........|
Posted by: blackboat on Aug-16-12 9:46 PM (EST)
......you're not gonna love this boat.
tell us how it is once you paddle it|
Posted by: old_user on Aug-17-12 12:19 AM (EST)
Posted by: jay on Aug-17-12 9:02 AM (EST)
I'll post after a couple of paddles with new boat.
Posted by: magooch on Aug-17-12 11:38 AM (EST)
Congratulations on your new boat, Jay. Maybe you can satisfy a question I have about the Xplore. When I demo paddled it, I noticed that unlike the other Tiderace boats I paddled, the Xplore seemed to have a much more vague secondary. I didn't have the time nor the desire to end up swimming, so I'm curious to know what you think.
I'll try to answer, but ymmv...|
Posted by: tvcrider on Aug-18-12 11:05 AM (EST)
I have paddled the Tiderace Xcite, Xcite S, and Xplore S.
Posted by: jsmarch on Aug-19-12 8:45 AM (EST)
Had a review ready to post, then Safari hung and nada--haven't gone back. I love the Xplore. Primary and secondary are both strong--not sure where this idea of ill defined secondary comes from? Secondary gets much better when loaded as would be expected. The kayak is very fast yet turns easily upwind or down when edged. It has very reassuring manners in lumpy wanter, surfs downwind easily, and is easy to control on a wave face at least in small surf. I've owned a lot of kayaks, but have paddled mostly OC Greenland kayaks for years. I bought the Xplore because I wanted a camping/expedition kayak. Was worried that I wouldn't like it, but turned out the opposite. Turner Wilson and Cheri Perry paddle the Xcite--has replaced the BBK Aral as the go to camping/surfing kayak from what I can see. I picked the Xplore over the Xcite for speed and volume. From what I can tell the two main East Coast dealers--NY Kayak Company and Savannah Canoe and Kayak sell their stock right away. Still, there's always the allure of the new kid on the block--we'll see what sort of staying power TR has over the long term. Me, I'm a happy paddler.
re: Xplore M|
Posted by: old_user on Sep-25-12 12:14 PM (EST)
Awesome mini-review. =]
no demo lol|
Posted by: RavenWing on Aug-18-12 12:52 PM (EST)
huge balls, man, to drop that kind of coin on a boat you haven't tried. Props.
Posted by: jay on Aug-18-12 4:56 PM (EST)
very fair price|
Posted by: RavenWing on Aug-18-12 7:10 PM (EST)
Posted by: jay on Aug-18-12 8:07 PM (EST)
Posted by: ByronWalter on Aug-20-12 9:37 AM (EST)
...that you are going to really like that TR. Just a couple of days ago I was talking with a guy that's a high-level kayaker and he was going on and on about the quality of construction of the TR boats.
Posted by: old_user on Aug-18-12 10:29 PM (EST)
Wow, it's kinda sad that TR is having a hard time gaining traction in some places.
Tiderace gaining traction - or not|
Posted by: RavenWing on Aug-20-12 3:12 PM (EST)
the real issue imo is that many of the places where Tiderace could be carried are already carrying VCP, NDK, and P&H. While we may enjoy parsing and celebrating their differences, overall there is simply a lot of overlap in these designs.
Posted by: old_user on Aug-20-12 9:13 PM (EST)
I think that's part of it, yes.
re: Tideraces in RM|
Posted by: old_user on Sep-23-12 7:22 AM (EST)
"Wow, it's kinda sad that TR is having a hard time gaining traction in some places.
Posted by: Dreamweve on Aug-20-12 5:36 AM (EST)
Is a Tiderace dealer in Florida?
Posted by: old_user on Aug-20-12 5:56 AM (EST)
Tiderace in Fla|
Posted by: RavenWing on Aug-20-12 3:03 PM (EST)
I know someone in Fla who is a dealer with a small number of new and used Tideraces. PM me if interested and I will get him in touch w. you.
TR Xcite is a splendid yak|
Posted by: eskmrol on Aug-20-12 4:03 PM (EST)
Can you tell us who it is?|
Posted by: old_user on Aug-20-12 7:34 PM (EST)
That would help everyone in Florida who's interested in TR, not just this guy.
Posted by: RavenWing on Aug-20-12 11:47 PM (EST)
he's a friend of a friend who is getting a Tiderace Excite sooner or later from him. Because I don't know if he is an "authorized dealer" I'm not gonna put his name and personal contact info out on any message board.
Posted by: landsharc on Aug-21-12 7:44 AM (EST)
he is an authorized dealer. kissimee river kayak.
Posted by: landsharc on Aug-21-12 7:46 AM (EST)
I believe sweetwater kayaks is also a dealer now or so ive heard
Yep on Sweetwater|
Posted by: old_user on Aug-21-12 12:26 PM (EST)
On their own site, they list several TR boats for sale.
Posted by: landsharc on Aug-20-12 4:11 PM (EST)
I know a dealer also. could be the same guy the other person is talking about. pm me if interested
Posted by: jay on Aug-25-12 11:53 PM (EST)
Had xplore s out for a couple of short paddles. It
Posted by: old_user on Aug-26-12 10:48 AM (EST)
Great initial review, Jay. Thanks. =]
Posted by: jay on Aug-26-12 12:20 PM (EST)
The cockpit fits good but I'am used to paddling
Xcite S feedback|
Posted by: jay on Sep-22-12 1:31 PM (EST)
I'am still really interested in hearing any feedback