Max load capacity limit
Posted by: old_user on Jan-12-11 9:44 PM (EST) Category: Kayaks
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Is it better to be close (with in 60lbs)to the kayaks max load weight limit or to have alot more lbs capacity to play with?
Im about to order a WS tempest in the next few days. The 17 ft fits me perfect but my weight alone is only 50-60 lbs away from the rated max load for this kayak. The tempest 18 has plenty of load capacity but might be too long for my needs.
any info would be great. Thanks.
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If it were me, I would try it out before|
Posted by: JackL on Jan-13-11 6:12 AM (EST)
What's your purpose?|
Posted by: Bnystrom on Jan-13-11 6:53 AM (EST)
If the boat is going to be used mainly for day paddling or as a play boat, smaller is better. If you're going to be doing extended camping trips where you're carrying a lot of weight, you'll want more capacity.
consider the Tsunami 165?|
Posted by: sapien on Jan-13-11 7:00 AM (EST)
it's rated at 350 lb capacity and is a more voluminous hull than the Tempest with a lot of reserve buoyancy; I'd bet it can take even more than that. It won't be as quick but if load is the primary consideration, it might be a better choice.
Weight limits and behavior|
Posted by: Celia on Jan-13-11 7:56 AM (EST)
Posted by: jaybabina on Jan-13-11 8:23 AM (EST)
"the boat fits you perfectly and you are 50 - 60 lbs from capacity" - perfect. 60 lbs is a lot of weight. Ever pick up a 60 lb bag of morter mix. Imagine loading that into your kayak. That's a lot of weight. You can over load boats too and be OK. People have done expeditions in Nordcapps for years and far overloaded them with no problem. You loose efficiency but often gain with initial stability (on some boats that sit high on round hulls)
Thanks for the replies|
Posted by: old_user on Jan-13-11 1:39 PM (EST)
Thanks for the replies. I have paddled the 17 but not the 18. The fit on the 17 is tight on me (im wide not tall:) ),with no gear in the boat it paddled great. But, im afraid im going to have the same problem im having with my tsunami 14.5. no gear its a terrific boat add my gear to it and it feels like im plowing/pushing water.
try it loaded|
Posted by: NateHanson on Jan-13-11 1:51 PM (EST)
I'd test your assumption rather than speculate about how the 17 might handle the load. You may find that the 17 carries a load better than your 14-footer, when loaded to capacity. So if you can, take a test paddle in the 17 with as much gear as you might carry. To me 60 pounds sounds like enough gear to camp for a week, but others might consider that pretty spartanly for an overnight.
Comfort is an incredibly huge issue|
Posted by: capefear on Jan-13-11 3:37 PM (EST)
Get yourself a kayak with an appropriately sized cockpit. If the Wilderness Systems cockpit that fits doesn't give you the performance you desire, look for a different model. There are plenty of good kayaks out there with some volume in the cockpit to accomodate wider hips and larger thighs. Imagine being in a kayak that starts to cause discomfort after 30 minutes because there's a little squeeze on the thighs and/or hips. I wouldn't recommend it, although there are many that are into just that thing in the name of low volume. I'd rather make up for being blown downwind a little extra in comfort. And in my experience, that little extra is scarcely noticeable. Don't get me wrong. I too don't desire a bunch of useless excess volume. There's no advantage to that in and of itself. But I place good value on necessary volume where it's needed to be comfortable. No pressure on any part of me just relaxed in the cockpit. Up to a half inch of space (which isn't much) between either hip and the side of the seat is great for forward stroke rotation,and especially rotation for other strokes. Ideally just a slight movement to have pressure on the thigh braces, but all pressure is entirely released when relaxed. It's easy to glue in some padding if necessary.
As Little Boat as is Necessary|
Posted by: Kudzu on Jan-13-11 4:50 PM (EST)
Yeah, if you're doing mostly day/weekend trips stick with the smaller boat. I learned this lesson the hard way.
small vs. large|
Posted by: old_user on Jan-17-11 2:08 AM (EST)
Depends on the paddler, some people (like me) like going fast and are willing to pay the price for doing that (more drag).
Posted by: MrTee on Jan-17-11 5:50 AM (EST)
I paddle the T170 probably within 10% of max weight alot. It is a different paddling boat then empty but not at all bad. Really important that the weight be balanced so the boat is in good trim. A boat that is heavy in the front and light in the back is going to behave much different than one that is properly trimmed.