Dicks Kayak Selection
Posted by: old_user on May-26-09 9:33 PM (EST) Category: Kayaks
Looking to finally buy a Kayak after 2 years of looking. I recently found 2 on sale at Dicks this week, the Potomac 100es (179.00) and Quest Kayak by Quest (229.00.) The potomac is about 10 feet and weighs 37 pounds, the quest is just under 9.5 feet and weighs 45 pounds. I;m 5'7 and 170 pounds, would be using the kayak once a week in the chicago river and possibly beach on lake michigan. Which option do you think would be the best, or other options. I want to spend under 300.00
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Get a used boat|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on May-26-09 9:37 PM (EST)
You will get a better boat for the same money.
Posted by: ptofireman on May-26-09 10:14 PM (EST)
As the saying goes if you purchase a beginner kayak - how long do you wish to remain a beginner ? The previous post suggests buying a used kayak, I couldn't agree more. Most beginner boats are Rec. kayaks, they often lack a front bulkhead/hatch. This will affect how much waterr they can take on should they go over. If your looking for a fun kayak to use on the occasional summer afternoon on a smooth small lake, then Dicks is fine. However if your looking to grow into kayaking as a hobby, you might wish to rent some higher priced boats and see how you like the way
Posted by: emanoh on May-27-09 12:22 AM (EST)
I wanted to offer a slightly different perspective on purchasing big box rec boats. This is reposted from the other string regardign new kayaks.
Posted by: old_user on May-27-09 1:55 AM (EST)
I appreciate all the responses so far. My number one concern is finding a kayak that is stable. The Chicago River is not a body of water you want to tip into. I have had 3 experiences on the river using a perception prodigy rental and lucky for me no tipping. I want to keep my purchase on a budget just to make sure this is something i will not fall out of love with. Do you have any suggestions on models to check out or good online store to look.
Posted by: old_user on May-27-09 2:01 AM (EST)
Keep an eye on Craigslist, also look around at the various canoe/kayak stores in the area. I'd highly recommend not looking at the big box sporting goods stores like "Dicks" as they don't know what they are selling, for them a kayak is just like selling shoes.
Falling out of love|
Posted by: Celia on May-27-09 8:21 AM (EST)
The one thing that is most likely to happen by starting with these bottom line rec type boats is that you'll fall out of love, and maybe very fast.
my 2 cents worth ....|
Posted by: trout on May-27-09 6:22 AM (EST)
i've seen those boats at the local DSG store .....have you sat in one yet?... i seem to remember that a lot of DSG's boats were rather shallow and didn't leave much room for a upright foot ...you had to angle your feet to fit ..maybe i'm wrong but that's what i recall.
Posted by: jgalar on May-27-09 8:20 AM (EST)
I was in Dicks yesterday and took a quick look at those boats. They either had NO flotation or cheap foam just shoved into the boat. You will need to add some flotation bags to these models or they may sink if flipped.
Posted by: falcon on May-27-09 9:53 AM (EST)
You make an excellent point regarding the floatation of these boats and rec boats in general. They meet the minimum floatation standards set by the USCG in that they should not sink, but have no positive buoyancy. These boats should never be taken farther away from shore than you are comfortable swimming, as you will find it impossible to re-enter and remove the water. If the foam falls out the boat will sink.
Don't buy from Dick's|
Posted by: old_user on May-27-09 8:29 AM (EST)
Find a local shop, or take a weekend trip to this place, two hours from Chicago.
Posted by: dand883 on May-27-09 8:43 AM (EST)
There's alot of good advice to try a little more advanced than you want right now. I started out with a big wide rec boat, loved it for the first 2 months, then wanted a change, so i looked around untill i got a good deal on one of the rec/touring boats at 14 feet, then paddled it for a summer and upgraded to a 17 foot sea kayak. Like everyone, i wish i would have went with the 14 foot boat from the beginning, but at the same time, i got a good deal on the rec boat, and had a summer i wouldn't have otherwise been paddling. It also showed me good and bad about different boats, and really made me aware of what i wanted that each boat didn't give me. So if you look and can't afford a 14 foot boat now, i'd say get the rec one, these days kayaks sell like crazy with online classifieds and if you find you're outgrowing it, maybe by then you can afford an upgrade by waiting for a good used deal to come up and selling your rec boat. So if all you can afford right now is the rec, go with the rec, anything you can do to start paddling.
Dick's Perception Montour|
Posted by: old_user on May-27-09 10:01 AM (EST)
Although I will agree that most of Dick's boats are junk and will be outgrown before the end of the first season, they have something good going with the "Dick's only" Perception Mountour. It was my first boat and served me very well on flat and class 1 rivers... and now 5 years later, I have an 18 foot kayak as well as a whitewater boat, but I refuse to get rid of the Montour. It's held up great and is a fantastic boat to lend out to other newbies. To the original poster, this may be out of your prescribed budget, but will give you way more bang for the buck.
I say just get something.|
Posted by: zenrider on May-27-09 10:21 AM (EST)
Whatever you can afford is OK, really. Most folks here have more than one boat and learned what they like. Some think they might know what you like. You might even think you know what you like. You might find you like something different from your original thought. Almost can guarantee that last statement.
Old Town Rush|
Posted by: old_user on May-27-09 9:45 PM (EST)
I bought the Old Town Rush on sale at Bass Pro Shop and I love it. It is 9.5 feet long and tracks great. I could not imagine using a boat much larger on class 1 or 2 rivers. I am looking for another boat about the same size to use on the rivers in Kentucky. I sat inside of a Swifty but could not get my knees under the cockpit. I am 5'9" and weigh 210 lbs. Can anyone suggest a boat as deep and comfortable as the Rush?
Posted by: jgalar on May-27-09 11:34 PM (EST)
Dicks buys many kayaks from Perception that are made with discontinued molds. Example:the Perception Blast used to be the Victory Blast and before that it was the Wilderness Systems Critter.
Posted by: FrankNC on May-28-09 12:50 AM (EST)
Get a boat. Get one now! The end of the worl could come and you'll have missed out. Get the cheapest boat you can right now and go paddling in some safe and warm water.
Obviously you have limited funds|
Posted by: Cliffjrs on May-28-09 10:05 AM (EST)
Just buy anything that fits your fancy then start saving. A decent used boat will cost you $600.00 or more anyway.
Buy what you can afford|
Posted by: old_user on May-28-09 10:32 AM (EST)
Some of us dont have a budget that will ever allow $1200+ sea kayaks. And others of us may really just want a beginner kayak, something to play with and only go 4/5 miles on a smooth lake, river or creek. I have a Perception Rhythm 11 from Dick's. Its a nice light little kayak that does well for its short length. Yes, eventually I want to save up and get a Perception Carolina 14 with rudder, but until then I'm satisfied. I'm not a small person, and for now I need something with a decent sized cockpit to get in and out of, and the extra stability.
did you miss when he said...|
Posted by: stickman on May-28-09 10:51 AM (EST)
"... or other options"? It appears to me most posted their response according to what he asked, which included "other options".
I'd call this guy:|
Posted by: HappyCamperToo on May-28-09 11:36 AM (EST)
there other cheapies here|
Posted by: bowrudder on May-29-09 8:27 AM (EST)
Another perspective . . .|
Posted by: Angell on May-29-09 12:04 AM (EST)
Dicks doesn't just sell low-end kayaks. We got our first kayak from Dicks: an Old Town 138 Twin Loon, which is a fine boat for smaller people. I watched that boat all season, waiting until it finally went on sale that fall, then bought it.
look at Craigs and bounce what you find|
Posted by: old_user on May-29-09 7:04 AM (EST)
off of us.
Nothing wrong with Dick's|
Posted by: travisma on May-29-09 1:26 PM (EST)
They have boats for all but the very serious paddlers.
Misses the point|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on May-29-09 1:34 PM (EST)
You have $x to spend and you can get a cheap, new, low quality boat from Dicks or you can get a much better boat used on Craig's List. Why would you choose the boat at Dick's???
Don't limit your choices|
Posted by: old_user on May-29-09 2:31 PM (EST)
> would be using the kayak once a week in the chicago river and possibly beach on lake michigan
Used is an option but|
Posted by: old_user on May-31-09 8:05 AM (EST)
I'm not sure its as great for everybody as touted here. I personally haven't found great deals and you are limited by what's for sale.
Posted by: old_user on May-31-09 8:43 AM (EST)
That's true. In many areas there are no good kayak shops and the only boats that come up for sale are clunkers from the big box stores. Don't buy someones mistake. It can take years to find a good used kayak in the local area.
Posted by: old_user on May-31-09 9:07 AM (EST)
has a HUGE ever churning selection of used boats from the simplest rec boat to the very top of the food chain in seakayaks, both commercial models and some excellent strip built and SOFs.