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  New Simplified CPR Proceduer
  Posted by: jhlengyel on Apr-18-07 3:40 PM (EST)

To Tom Watson
I have always been taught that the two (2) prerequisits for the administering of CPR were that the victum should:
1. Not be Breathing
2. Not have a pulse (which indicates that the heart is not pumping)
A victum may not be breathing but still have a pulse. And, if you begin chest compressions for CPR you can potentially do serious damage to the victums heart. As far as I know this is still true ? Can you verify this & get back to me.

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  No rescue breathing without compressions
  Posted by: old_user on Apr-18-07 3:47 PM (EST)
For all victims other than infants, the AHA recommends "No rescue breathing without compressions."

Reference: 'Currents' (Issue 2005-2006, page 7, American Heart Association,
  Seems ill-conceived to me.
  Posted by: Reefmonkey on Apr-26-07 11:27 AM (EST)
I was always taught that giving someone with a normal rhythym can send them into arrhythmia. Now AHA says that you shouldn't even check for a pulse, and should perform chest compressions even if there might be a pulse. Their reasoning behind it seems to have nothing to do with the well-being on the patient:

"Why: The elimination of rescue breathing
without chest compressions will reduce the
number of CPR skills lay rescuers must
learn, remember, and perform. This change
also eliminates the need to further assess
the victim after the initial rescue breaths,
reducing the time delay before delivering the
first chest compressions."

Seems like just a couple of years ago they were talking about eliminating breaths altogether and just advocating chest compressions (contravening their old stance that compressions without breathing just circulates deoxygenated blood), but they changed their minds about that. I'll wager that this new thing of chest compressions on people with pulses will be reversed pretty soon here.
  Posted by: old_user on Jan-26-08 4:22 PM (EST)
Hi, sorry but never looked at the response links before, didn't realize they were there or would have responded sooner.

I am not a CPR instructor so can't answer that, but as one who tries to keep up on CPR --hence this notice in the form of an article --. You are right, it seems they can't get their procedures secure before changing them again and again...not real trustworthy! Tom
  Pulse? CPR
  Posted by: old_user on Jan-26-08 4:19 PM (EST)
First of all, I never knew these response links were here so never looked....If you have a pulse but aren't breathing, then I would think you have to start don't check for pulse in basic CPR, only if not breathing...check the list..does it say "feel for pulse"? I don't think it does. I am NOT the expert., maybe one of those links cited in the story will help out. TOM


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