I find this stroke very useful on those long
hauls to just be able to change the pace
while getting thru those 10,000 strokes it sometimes takes to complete a trip. I also find it very useful to carry this stroke a little further and spin it at the end during the return, that is let the blade rotate 180o. This makes it
feather very natrually.
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Posted by: old_user on Jan-01-07 2:55 PM (EST)
I agree, especially on those long solo trips.
Posted by: old_user on Jan-03-07 10:26 AM (EST)
Kevin, nice article but I have to admit that I never have been laughed at for switching sides. I use a bent shaft almost excusively (why doesn't everyone?) and still fail to recognize the advantages of the variations of the J-stroke used by my straight shaft peers. The two major flaws with J-stroke type technique (incuding the new flavor of the week, Canadian stroke) is that 1) it is not as effecient as a forward stroke on the other side because you are still using a form of rudder. Read: less distance with more energy expenditure. And 2) Extending paddling on the same side is what chiropractors dream about. It is bad bio-mechanics to stay on one side, which can lead to back problems and motion injuries.
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Posted by: old_user on Jan-03-07 2:13 PM (EST)
You're right that the bent-shaft is much more effecient. The only reason I prefer to not use that method is that it doesn't match my character and reason to be out there - I'm in no hurry. And you're right about the kneeling as well. I figure once you are past 40 the knees definitely give out. My buddy was kneeling because I was rocking the boat too much up at the bow tryijng to get the picture.
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Posted by: old_user on Jan-03-07 6:00 PM (EST)
Kevin you are a gentleman for your humble response to the previous poster. i wish i was a polite Canadian like you because while his stated response "This email's purpose is not meant to start a silly debate over why the hit 'n swith method is usually better to use and better for you" may be true, the purpose seems more to be to tell you/us how stupid you/we are for using the antiquated kiddie stroke we learned from a boy scout manual, and how he should know- he's a genuine and worldly pro, unlike you. what an arrogant and condescending jerk.
Posted by: old_user on Jan-04-07 6:41 AM (EST)
James, You are right, Kevin is a true gentleman. I apologize if my response was offensive in any way as it was meant to be helplful. I am not an arrogant jerk, as you indicated, but since we don't know each other I will leave it at that. The sport of canoeing is not growing and today's kids do not seem as interested. I find this sad. If there is any feedback I can give to help the sport in a constructive manner, I will. Please use this forum as an educational tool and leave the name calling in your middle school cafeteria. It does not have a place here. John
Posted by: old_user on Jan-04-07 10:05 AM (EST)
of my original post. you confirm what you are.
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Posted by: old_user on Jan-06-07 10:21 AM (EST)
I think all three of us should go on a canoe trip together; it's obvious you're just as passionate about canoeing (and talking about canoeing)then I am. All points made about the proper stroke to use is correct - but the big picture here is that all three of us like to go paddling (no matter how we get ourselves across the water). I actually have one canoe partner who uses a bent-shaft in the bow and I use a tradtional paddle in the stern. This shouldn't work, and we definitely get laughed at when we paddle together, but we've done this for a dozen years or so and neither of us will change for the other. It's commical really.