Submitted by: paddlegirl
11-17-2009
     Thanks to all you previous reviewers.
Recently bought my Pack to primarily take the place of my Mad River Malecite and a kayak. Like Jack with his Lamoille, my 62lb Malecite had become too much for me to handle to and from the car. It has been sitting for several years because of the hassle in handling. The kayak was just to confining for me.

Most of my activities are on bigger waters and I have found the Pack quite capable. I was in 1-2' waves yesterday and though busy maintaining control all went well.

I use my adjustable kayak paddle (BB Glide) set at 240cm. This works fine for kneeling but for sitting a 260 might be better. One of the reasons I went from a kayak back to a canoe was so I would have a choice in either sitting or kneeling.

I paddle my Pack backwards so to speak, bracing against the thwart and using the seat as a surface for my compass, camera, and other things. I contacted customer service to confirm the Pack was symmetrical, it is.
I really love the weight, or lack of it.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: moriverrat
11-12-2009
     A few weeks ago I set out from St Joe, Missouri in my trusty Pack. My destination was the town of Hermann, 340 miles down the Missouri river. In addition to my nearly 200 pound 5'10" frame, my indomitable Pack also carried 8 5 liter water cans, 2 coolers, 2 duffel bags and other assorted gear. I used an 8' kayak paddle and on the best day made 70 miles.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: David
09-08-2009
     I've had the Pack canoe (Angler edition) for two years now as we travel with our motorhome around the USA. This is a sweet boat at only 33 pounds. It's on top of the motorhome on a special canoe/kayak rack custom made, and I just slide it down to the ground by a line with a carpet on top to protect the paint finish. Reverse it for placing back on the top. Very easy since it is so light to handle.

We have been in large and small lakes, streams and rivers, even ocean bays. Primarily I like it for flyfishing on small bodies of water or in streams/small rivers up to class two. I moved the fishing rod holder closer to the bow front away from my action/sweep of the kayak paddle. Note that with the kayak paddle I have no problem with tracking. Easy! I use about a 240 paddle because of the boat width.

I am now building new anchor holds for bow and stern using a small pyramid anchor for each, with wood mountings that extend beyond the canoe for easy use of the anchor lines. Last week I was fishing for trout in Central Oregon and my anchor line didn't reach bottom and when it did, wouldn't hold because of the wind. The anchor that comes with the boat for the Angler's edition is too light in my opinion. By time I finish modifications this will be one great canoe for fishing.

By the way, although this canoe does fairly well in wind, it is no match for a kayak which is much lower and better designed for speed. I do carry a Necky Manitou 14 kayak with us and a Cayuga 13 kayak for my wife. These are great in the wind and I do use them for fishing when the wind gets too bad. Mostly though the kayaks are for exploring which is limitless here in the Northwest. I love my Pack canoe as well as the Cayuga 13 kayak, both made by Old Town. This means I can paddle a variety of waters in different conditions.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Jack
07-29-2009
     I've been looking for a smaller canoe for awhile now. This year I turned 60 and pressing my 18'4" Mad River Lamoille overhead onto the car rack is now getting to be more struggle than fun.

The Indian or North Woods Stroke allows one to paddle infinitely on one side or the other and works just fine for the Pack. Others have been critical of the Pack's tracking. I've found with a bit of heel to the side of the paddle the turning pressures are balanced out and the result is a nice, straight and surprisingly quiet glide. Very pleasant.

I'm 6'3" and 250# so to lower the center of mass I kneel to the turn of the bilge with my butt against the leading edge of a thwart which replaced the seat. I had a problem with lowering the seat. Size 13 feet make it hard to tuck my legs under so my solution was to replace the seat with second thwart mounted at the rear of the two seat attachments. For cushioning I use a foam gunwale support for cartopping and it is just enough to take the pressure off. A split, hollow core swimming noodle or neoprene pipe insulation would also work. In combination with the front thwart, the second thwart allows for two different paddling positions. If more weight is wanted forward, use the front thwart and paddle facing aft.

For double paddling, I have one of those camp chairs or stadium seats with a seat and attached back and sit on the bottom propped against the rear thwart which puts the center of weight in the same fore and aft position as the seat only much lower. I've been using an 8' double paddle and I agree a bit more length may be better. Initially I was concerned about elbows hitting on the gunwales, but this is not a problem - nice surprise.

I believe the designer chose dynamic over static stability. This will never be a boat where one stands up and admires the view, but once under way the tipsiness experienced while sitting still smooths out for a stable, smooth ride. It takes a while to learn the dressage of moving about or changing positions, but with a bit of perseverance this is accomplished.

Overall the Pack is a first rate boat. Low weight for portability, rugged/low maintenance materials and reasonable performance for a relatively short hull make this a winning design.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Bernoulli
07-26-2009
     A local outfitter got hold of several of these canoes after buying a trailer for his rental business that had some rarely used but sun-damaged Packs on it from a local university field geology department. My wife got it for me for father's day at an outrageously cheap price and I couldn't be happier with the boat.

I'm used to portaging an Old Town Discovery 158 so the 33 pound Pack is just amazing in comparison. It tracks very well with a standard J-stroke and is plenty fast enough for enjoying the river. Obviously, I don't keep up with my kayaking companions when out with fellow paddlers while using my 54" paddle but that could easily be remedied by getting a yak paddle - but I like the art of paddling more than racing the canoe.

As others have done, I lowered the seat by purchasing 6 inch long stainless steel screws and brass pipe sleeves. I would rather kneel in the canoe but the standard seat placement made that difficult, as it wasn't easy to jam my feet under the seat so lowering the seat that amount seems to work well for me. I can't tell you how nice it is to throw the Pack up on my shoulder and portage it - I think it weighs less than most of my paddling friends' kayaks. What a great boat!

Oh, and about the "tippiness" - it's a solo boat so it's more narrow. Once you get used to getting in and out of it and determine where to put your feet, it's just like any larger canoe.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: DGW
07-21-2009
     I've had my Pack for several years; I love it. I agree that the tracking is a challenge with the Pack, but then I could just stay home as an alternative. It's tough to have tracking and maneuverability built into the same boat. I use ONLY a traditional straight beaver tail because I'm in it for the experience, not how fast I can go. If you see a solitary paddler tracking straight across open water, you know they have invested the time to learn how to really paddle. The sign of an expert paddler is a kayaker who leaves his kayak paddle at home and uses a single blade canoe paddle.

I bought the Pack for it's low weight, but agree that the seat could be more comfortable..... but I keep having the same thought: if comfort is your main goal, a recliner is your answer...
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: wekayakfish
05-08-2009
     Update on Pack.
I don't know WHY I thought I needed it, but I ordered the pack angler seat kit recently. I lowered the cane seat with some longer bolts (8") from Lowe's and some brass sleeves from plumbing dept a few years ago...then I use the sit-backer seat (does it weigh a pound even?) so I figure I'm about 4" lower than where I started(net) this set up has served me well for a long time.

Anyhow - I got the Pack Angler Kit - and it didn't work for me - I'm used to the comfort of the sit-backer on bottom, and I think I'd miss my camp chair always being with me. :) So, I called Old Town - expecting to hear something about restocking fees, or some such normal thing. Guess what? no problem - they even set it all up for me have the box picked up AT MY PLACE by Fed-Ex. all FREE! and 100% of what I paid for it is coming back to me.

Guess this is more a review of Old Town than anything...but they sure are nice to deal with! very nice - makes me even more proud of my Pack! I put it all back the way I had it...and love it all the more.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: DMC
05-04-2009
     I have been looking all over for something to get into those tight, off the beaten path places to fish and I've finally found what I've been looking for. I stumbled across this canoe at a local dealer, noticed how light it was and thought I better come here and check the reviews. After reading the reviews, I bought it.

I took it for a spin this afternoon. (in spite of the rain) It is all that everyone says it is. It's super light, tracks a lil crazy and is "spirited" in stability. I love it and I can't wait to fish it in dozens or places, take it camping, you get the idea. It's a breeze to load onto my 4dr jeep by myself, I walked it into the woods about a 12 minute trip, stopping in between to switch shoulders. (pool noodle or some kind of foam is very nice to have for this)

I think it would be nice to lower the seat at least 2 inches for slightly better stability, though it's not really necessary. The minimalist seat gets a lil hard on the rump after a couple hours so I may do some tweaking here. Above all I want to keep her as light as possible.

I can clearly see where a double bladed paddle would be handy for covering a lot of water but for now I am going to buy a nice wooden 54" paddle and enjoy it for what it is. I used a heavy aluminum one today in the same size.
For reference, I am 6' tall and weigh about 210 pounds.
Rating: 8 of 10

Submitted by: Wildbuc
04-29-2009
     I own both the Pack and 119.
I took my Pack out today for the first time and it was a joy. I removed the seat and replaced it with a homemade seat resting on the floor. This provided much improved stability and comfort. Using a double paddle, the Pack was easy to track, but did require attention to direction. The light weight was a tremendous advantage. I give it a 9 because of mild tracking problems. A great value!
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: fellinthedrink
03-03-2009
     I actually have the old version of this canoe. It is called the Hunter not the Pack. It's set up as a 2 seat but handles much better spun around as a solo. I got it for my 13th birthday and still paddle it year around. Great little vessel. Sweet for getting into back swamps for bass and pike fishing.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: pbw
03-02-2009
     I was given this canoe by my uncle. He kept it outside for 8 or so years so it was dirty. After I washed it and put two coats of carnuba wax it looked great even with the tire tread marks down the side from it falling off my uncles truck driving down the highway. So its tested tough.

I use it as a solo canoe or take out the seat and cross member, load it up with gear for 10 to 15 day camping/fishing trips and tow it to an island behind my kayak. It's light and I think stable. I plan on doing some white water this summer with it. I do recommend putting the Kevlar skid pads on it or any canoe; keeps the bow and stern protected. All in all great canoe highly recommended.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Lorax
02-17-2009
     Great little canoe. I lowered the seat on mine 1.5". I've done a few multi-day trips with it and it holds a lot of gear. I've even taken my 42 lb dog with me on occasion.

It's a great little canoe as long as you don't push it with a single blade. With a double blade, it easily handles wind and gets up to a good cruising speed very quickly. For the value and what it can do, it scores high. For finesse... not so much, but for what I use it for, the ease of handling, the gear hauling capability, the stability of the platform for various activities, this little gem can not be beat.

I'm thinking about adding some adjustable foot pegs to mine to lock myself in a little better when river running or digging in against the wind.
Rating: 7 of 10

Submitted by: Rocketray
01-14-2009
     I give the Pack canoe a 10 because its exactly what I wanted. A light 33 lbs. and in tough Royalex. Using the Solo-C stroke it goes straight and as fast as I need. On flat water it goes about 4km./Hr.(walking speed). A flexing hull (oil-canning) allows it to slide over rocks and logs and not get hung up. I did lower the seat 2" (kneeling puts my legs to sleep) for a stable sitting position. It fits nicely on my ATV and allows me access to those remote lakes. I use a 68" Cherry paddle for most of my travels but thinking of getting a Yak paddle for upstream and into the wind.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: John Northrop
12-29-2008
     Can't say enough great things about my Pack.
We have WS Tarpon's (100 and 120) and love 'em, but the Pack canoe is just SO handy. Duck hunting, canoe camping/fishing trips, even quiet paddles - if we take extra folks, I always volunteer to use the Pack - they can use my kayak. Shallow water stream fishing- no worries about rock, just fish. We bought the stabilizers - use 'em at times (awesome!) and then just lowering the seat a few inches and a LONG double bladed paddle... it's an awesome, versatile, easy to load and carry boat! Ours has been from the Gulf to MN, from FL to CO. Best value in all of boating, IMO. Kayak's are getting better and better, but my Pack will be with me always.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: dk
11-21-2008
     I have had my Pack for 7 years and have taken over 100 trips. I'm love this canoe. A kayak paddle is my usual companion but I also use a bent shaft for short trips and a regular plastic paddle for white water. The hull is strong but if you hit a rock head on, it will crush the royalex. Both front and rear of my canoe have dents now but it's still working fine.

If you're single, this is your canoe. I take mine with friends who kayak all the time and I can keep up and still get a tan. I used to be a kayaker but the confinement wasn't for me. I've done lots of creeking with it. You only need about 4 inches of water. Kayaks are always getting stuck but I just "hop" off the rocks and keep on going.

On open water, it does great if you put some weight in the front. Of course the big plus is the low weight. I carry mine one handed and haul my gear with the other. No multiple trips to the truck.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Josh
11-01-2008
     Picked up the Field & Stream Kay-noe / Old Town Pack Angler at Dick's Sporting Goods. Caught it on sale for $349. Taken it out once or twice so far, and have not had any problems whatsoever. One real complaint....I like the idea of the seat with backrest, but I keep sliding off of it and I get cramps in my rear due to the material. This will be resolved by spring time.

To reiterate what everyone else has stated, the boat is difficult to track straight with single blade. It was no problem paddling as long as I could pry the double blade paddle away from my girlfriend on her kayak. But it didn't take her long before she threw the single blade back at me.

All in all, for the money it is a good boat if you want get in the water for low cost to paddle, fish, and haul plenty of gear for 1 or 2 people. Just don't expect to be intercepting any bassboats or anything.
Rating: 7 of 10

Submitted by: derekp
10-15-2008
     I have used my Pack on 4 fishing trips down rocky rivers. The upper Saluda SC and the lower Broad SC. It is perfect.
Yes, you must be careful and covering any long flat water a 240cm kayak paddle is not optional. A 280cm, which I tried on 2 floats, is much better.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Randy
10-07-2008
     After reading the reviews, and looking and looking, I found one here in the Houston area. Before I even bought it, when I lifted it up, I loved it. 33 POUNDS what a dream.

The first thing I did was add 4 inch drops to lower the seat and added adjustable foot rests. Then I tried 2 different seats, the Crazy Creek canoe seat and the GCI sit backer seat. Hands down it was the GCI seat for comfort and back support. Paddling it with my Day-Tripper kayak paddle was a breeze.

I really like this little rig.....
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: dph
08-18-2008
     I found the Pack is just what the doctor ordered for the price. Yes, it isn't the best at tracking but if you have some experience and don't rush it, it does what you want it to. The light weight makes it a great canoe for us older guys who find lifting larger canoes difficult. It gives me the freedom that I'm looking for in a Pack Canoe!
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Roger
08-15-2008
     I am a 62 year old man and I weigh 262 pounds. I have fished all my life and have considerable canoe experience. My wife and I had a Guide model (Old Town) and she opted to get a solo kayak to facilitate her outdoor photography.

I was initially drawn to the Pack model canoe because of its light weight (like most other people) but have since then been very impressed by other traits as well. It fishes very well, and although I didn't purchase the Angler Model, I did send for the Angler Model seat, available from Old Town. This seat lowers my considerable weight approximately five inches and for those who understand canoeing, that is a significant stabilizing impact. The canoe is much more stable and seems to track better as well.

I still use a single bladed wooden paddle because I like the romance of keeping things as simple and in character with canoeing as possible. I like this canoe a lot. I recommend it to most people.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: SC
07-22-2008
     I wanted to write something here because this site was so useful when I was trying to decide whether to buy a Pack.

This a fabulous boat. No reason to duplicate all the kudos - maneuverable, light... it's a joy. Yes it's a bit tippy but you get used to it quickly. And yes tracking is a challenge. But thanks to reviews here I bought a long kayak paddle (I have a Wave from Cannon) and it makes paddling the Pack a joy. No more tracking troubles, light and easy paddling - I highly recommend trying a kayak paddle.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Chris O\
06-17-2008
     PROS: Very stable out of the box. Fast. Maneuverable.
CONS: The seat.
The seat is terrible. I was out for 3 hours and my a$$ was still aching a couple of hours later. I have to find out how to pad the stock seat or I may have to build my own seat. The fact that the seat has a back makes things worse, not better, because you can't move around as much. I may replace the seat with just a slab of wood. The hard, metal seat on my 17' Coleman is much better than this one.
Rating: 8 of 10

Submitted by: David
05-23-2008
     I recently purchased the Angler edition of the Pack canoe. I love it!
Having had the Old Town Tripper for 30 years or more (which I think is the best canoe ever made), I grew weary of trying to portage this 80 pounder on long camping trips. Now at 72, I have a 27 foot motorhome and place the Pack on top without any problem because it is so light. I had a custom canoe/kayak rack made for the Lazy Daze motorhome to support a canoe and one or two kayaks.

I especially like this 12 foot wonderboat for its ability to do well in lakes, rivers, and small streams. I am looking forward to trying it out on our Oregon rivers up to Class II when I return next year from the East Coast.

I have a 240 Aqua-Bound cabon shaft paddle that works great. I am now looking for a cushion to soften the hard plastic seat on the angler edition. It gives a low center of gravity for excellent balance but it's hard on the backside after three or four hours in the water. I totally recommend this canoe!
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: moriverrat
05-22-2008
     The Pack is my first canoe, but I've been a river rat (rafting) for many years. I found the canoe in the classifieds and upon seeing it I had to have it.

My first attempt to enter it found me sitting in the water beside my swamped canoe, but then again I am used to rafts. The other day I took it on a day float on the Platte river and although it seemed a bit wobbly (also I am a novice) I was very impressed with its maneuverability. Also with 2 bad knees and a frozen shoulder I still had no difficulties getting the Pack up a steep rocky river bank at the takeout.

Before my float today on the Missouri river I read the reviews here and found them extremely helpful. I fashioned a kayak paddle by joining 2 spare raft oars with a coupler, and was very impressed with the improved speed and tracking. However it just didn't feel right so I practiced my J-stroke with the beavertail paddle and that also improved the tracking.

I am sure that stability and trim will be improved when I pack it with a weeks worth of gear for an extended float trip, which I cannot wait to do in this gem of a canoe.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: gruman
04-25-2008
     I have enjoyed a 17' Grumman square stern for 40 years. However, for Father's Day 2007 my sons gave me an Old Town Pack. It would be difficult to expand or improve on the functional attributes described in the previous Pack reviews.

The Pack is flat out a quality craft. We did change out the seat and move the new seat forward 3" to trim the craft out and bring the bow down slightly. A frequent comment in many of the Pack reviews is the time and energy spent keeping the Pack moving in a straight line. One weekend I tried a 220cm kayak paddle and decided a kayak paddle was the way to go. However, due to the width of the Pack and the seat position relative to a kayak, it was obvious a longer kayak paddle was needed. To shorten the saga of the search for a longer kayak paddle -- Just go to the Bending Branches web site, call the the sales department, ask how much it costs (minimal given the net results) for a special order 270cm Slice kayak paddle and then go to your local paddling store with the information to have them place an order. On a 270cm paddle, the Slice blade will yield a slightly longer shaft than the Glide blade, a real plus for reaching over the side and for keeping drips outside the craft. The 270cm Bending Branches Slice paddle is a welcome performance addition to the Pack.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: oregonpaddler
03-05-2008
     Absolutely, without question, the best value in the canoe world.
Ok, having said that, here are the negatives:
Tracking is only fair, stability is lacking for a beginner, but no problem for an experienced paddler. That's it. Tracking and stability is lacking due to the short length, wide beam and hull shape, and that's the compromise for having a VERY lightweight and VERY durable solo canoe that is excellent in flat water, acceptable in up to type III whitewater (my experience and opinion), and is so EASY to car-top and portage.

I have loaded my Pack with five days worth of provisions, including a reclining lawn chair, for a summer trip down the John Day River in Oregon. I alternated days in my Old Town Cayuga 14 kayak, and the Pack canoe is so much more fun and much easier on my legs than the Cayuga (also one of the best values on the market.)

The bottom line is this: for the price, you get a bomb-proof Royalex hull, an incredibly light 33 pound lift and a fun, responsive canoe that'll carry all you need for a week of calm water or class 11 to 111 touring, depending on your talent/experience. Beginners need to practice a bit. You should take the Pack out on your favorite pond or lake and learn it's limits. Tip it over, get wet, have some fun. Experiment with 240cm or longer kayak paddles. Quicker strokes equal better tracking on this short canoe.

If you can afford only one boat, this is worth considering. If you want another boat to add to your fleet, the Pack is a great value. You'll be using it more than you realize.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: dg
02-26-2008
     I had a pack canoe. I sold it about 10 years ago. I've had many kayaks/canoes since. I currently have 4 crafts. I'd just about give all 4 in trade for ONE pack canoe! So easy... sooooo easy to use; simple. One of mine is a 15 foot Old Town Discovery Sport, squareback. I never use it... extremely hard to load, carry, etc.
I truly miss my pack canoe... looking hard now.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: BNMorris
02-02-2008
     O.K. I am a little late on reviewing a canoe that has been around as long as the Pack. I loved the Pack and found it well suited to my tripping needs. Loading up a backpack, and fishing gear, the Pack was just the right size and weight to carry through those long wooded portages balanced on my backpack frame.

It is a great canoe to fish out of, and get you in and out of thin water, and tight spots. I am a big guy 6'2" and never felt crowded. Properly loaded and trimmed out the Pack is very maneuverable. One of the worst days of my life was the day I sold my Pack. But I can tell you the guy I sold it to was all smiles as he paddled up river.

I notice a few of the reviewers concerns about the boat not being stiff enough, as an old wood and canvas canoe owner and restorer, all I can say is that's the way a canoe should feel. A canoe should flex and glide through the water, not slam into it like the harder fiberglass, or aluminum boats.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: Barry Kade
07-03-2007
     I think perhaps I'm being a bit conservative in giving the Pack a 9. It seems it could be better, but I'm not sure how. The boat is very stable, easily maneuverable in windy conditions, and moves along at a good clip for the energy expended.
This is the first solo I've ever been in. When using a single canoe paddle, it seems I'm spending 1/2 my energy correcting. It may be my (lack of) technique. But, when using a kayak paddle (which I've extended by almost a foot) she moves right along and is easy to maneuver, even in fairly strong winds.
Another plus for me is low maintenance. There are 2 pieces of wood; the cane seat and the gunnel. Everything else is vinyl surfaced. The Pack comes only in Royalex, I believe. Wood is good, but vinyl is final.
I look forward to packing gear for a week camping trip. I weigh 185 and figure I can safely take another 70 lbs of stuff.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: Shirley
06-12-2007
     This is a first for me. I'm a 135 lb, 50 year old woman who had very little experience in a canoe. I bought this one because it was lite enough for me to lift onto the top of my car.

I love this canoe. I've only had it out 5 times now for a couple of hours at a time, ...and only in fairly calm water, but I love it. It's easy to maneuver and I don't find it very tippy. I did lower the seat and got a sit backer chair though. The only thing I struggled with was when the wind would make it hard to go straight, but I learned to use the wind and zig zag to where I want to go. I'm really looking forward to a great summer learning to paddle and exploring new places in my Pack.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Mike
04-25-2007
     I wanted a canoe to take anywhere and not have to fret with a battery or motor. I wanted a canoe easy to move around dangerous rapids and easy to get on top of my Cherokee. I wanted a small canoe that will carry me and enough stuff to see me thru several days. The Pack is that canoe. If there's a downside to the pack, it's the two trips it took me to get accustom to it's length. It turns RIGHT NOW when you nudge it in a different direction. Also, if you tilt it to the gunwale, it's going over. There is no "secondary stability," whereby one might save himself from getting wet by quickly righting the canoe--it the gunwale is at the surface of the water, there's no stopping it from going over. I found that out not by having an accidental spill, but by deliberately leaning to one side to see how far she'd go without dunking me. I would not take this canoe thru mean water, but for mild rapids and a good traveling canoe for one person, it's the best you can buy. My last trip was 10 miles downstream on calm water; the pack got me home safely and without wearing me out. Buy it, but don't expect to master it immediately. It took me about two hours to feel comfortable in the Pack.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: HIlger Hertell
04-02-2007
     I got it a couple of months back and have used it for duck hunting and fishing. I am 200 lbs and I have not needed to lower the seat; it seems tippy but that goes away after a couple of trips. Just caught a 9 lb snook that would have been scared away by a bigger boat or a motor - he almost pulled me back into the cover I hooked him in. Also literaly nudged a fifteen pounder which I thought was just a log until he moved. On another trip had a small 8-9 lb tarpon jump right into the canoe and had to wait for it to tire before I could throw him back. This is the most fun of all my four boats. Ducks are not too alarmed by the canoe and will allow me close enough, and even if they fly off they'll settle down close by, but the canoe has to be positioned as rapid movement plus recoil might throw me off balance. There's just nothing better for the soul - nobody else goes to the places I get to in this little canoe, and the fish I find have had little or no fishing pressure.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: R. Stevenson
11-13-2006
     I bought a Pack last spring and paddled on 4 wilderness trips, dozens of fishing trips and a few hunting trips so far. I weigh 250 lbs and carry two portage packs on a wilderness trip. The heavy one in front and the light one behind, plus fishing gear. I can go for a week or more. I use American Trader Otter Tail paddles. I can paddle canadian style when needed in this boat. It has become my first choice for solo trips. The hull is tough enough to use around rocks; it handles waves well; and mild rivers are no problem. It is not a white water boat. The seat does need to be lowered 1.5 to 2 inches though!! (I used new fir dowels and 1/4 inch hardware.) A seat back is needed (at least for my back). I used Cave Creek for light weight with modifications for stiffness. It is a good fishing and hunting boat; it will carry a deer, if you take only one pack with you. It is a stable shooting platform, if you have lowered the seat, and use good judgement. It is sweet to paddle and portage. I would not recommend it to a beginner to paddle; you need to know how to J-stroke and C-stroke. For the experienced paddler, who is looking for a light solo boat for hunting, fishing, trapping, or exploring, and willing to give up some speed for stability, this is a fine choice. Now, if you elect to keep the seat where it is when you buy it, this is a twitchy, witch of a boat that will roll you right out in rough conditions if you aren't careful! It may be more kind to lighter paddlers, I really couldn't say. Have fun. Stay dry!
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: paddle-n-fish
08-28-2006
     This is a really fun little canoe to paddle. Lightweight, only 33 lbs. so it gets used more than my other canoes. It's size makes it easy to go exploring up little feeder creeks off the main lakes and perfect for fishing little beaver ponds. You can spin it on a dime and turn it around in the tightest spots in the backcountry. Pretty stable, but a bit more twitchy than my 16 and 18 foot tandems. Not surprising as it has less beam, no problem once you get used to it. It makes a great fishing canoe...all your gear close at hand. Being highly maneuverable also means it's not the best tracker. However, a good J-stroke will keep it fairly straight and it responds to pries and draws real well. I tried a double blade with mine and it improves the speed and handling, but not enough to make me want to give up my single blade. I have done a few solo trips out of it from overnighters to a 5 day trip. Very pleasant to use in that capacity. Two packs and a small cooler plus fishing gear fit well for me. This canoe would be great for someone looking for an inexpensive, lightweight solo canoe.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: ricksanders
01-18-2006
     This canoe is the single best purchase I have ever made. For getting out on my own its light weight makes it possible to portage it anywhere to access water. It is very stable. I took the seat out and added a thwart with thick padding to rest my back against in addition to my life vest. I sit on the bottom and use a kayak paddle (about 6.5 ft long). The double bladed paddle makes this canoe very maneuverable and fast. It is also quiet and sneaky. I use this kayak for duck hunting and often take my 80 pound dog who sits behind me. I have never tipped it even while shooting from the canoe. I did not see any reviews from hunters, but if this is your sport I can hightly recommend this canoe for that purpose. I own a 15 foot canoe and two Jon boats 10 and 12 foot. This canoe is simply the best all purpose boat I have ever come across. I give it a solid 10. There is absolutely nothing wrong with owning one of these.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: scott
12-24-2005
     Sold my Old Town 13' Sport Discovery (too heavy to car top by myself at 90 odd lbs.) & bought a 12' Pack canoe. Paddles fine single or tandem, my bride & I are both under 150 lbs. Better than a kayak for fishing - more room, less chance of gear going overboard, but just as light. I lowered the seat & added a stern anchor mount. A tethered, kayak paddle provides plenty of go. The Pack canoe’s light weight & foam blocks make cartopping a breeze, I’m on the water in no time. A milk carton fitted with cart wheels holds my gear. Buy 2 Pack canoes for the price of the Kevlar or ‘glass solo canoes and have some money left for accessories...
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: marsarie
11-27-2005
     I got mine brand new from Bass Pro for $549 (with promotion and a discount for couple of minor scratches) - I am a happy camper! It's everything that 95% of you have been sharing on this board (thanks for your honest evaluation!), easy to navigate, light weight, light weight, light weight, and oh, did I say light weight? 33 bls makes a hell of a difference, also makes you want to take it out and paddle more often.

The reasons I didn't give it a 10 because (1) for those who are not experience paddlers, you may need to be careful at first, leaning over too far may find yourself in the water, after 2-3 total hours of paddling, you should be OK, and (2) the seat should had been designed about 2" lower, which I adjusted and made a whole lot of different.

With that in mind, go try it, you'll love it!
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: mesten
10-17-2005
     I bought a used Pack and love it. I've used it on the Delaware River in recent flood conditions (not recommended for inexperienced paddlers) and on the Oswego River in southern NJ during drought conditions. It is an amazingly versatile, stable boat even with my 80 lb dog in the bow who can't sit still for 5 seconds.

After my youngest went off to college, I got this to replace an Old Towne Guide, which I don't enjoy loading and unloading solo. At about 30 lbs., the pack is a breeze to handle by myself.

Buying this boat is a no-brainer if you need a light-weight all-purpose boat. I give it a 9 because a 10 is ideal for everything, and no boat is.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: FISHON
06-20-2005
     Old Town Pack Canoe: Just purchased a new Pack. First thing I did was drop the seat down 2" and installed an Old Town Sitbacker seat. The best thing about the Pack to me is the light weight. It's effortless to load and unload from the bed of my pickup. It was very stable and not the tippy canoe I was concerned about. I use a 240 kayak paddle and it tracks pretty well. Not as fast as my Tarpon 160 but is very responsive. Just a fun, easy to transport, easy to enjoy canoe. I am pleased with my Pack and would surely recommend it to anyone looking for a light weight solo canoe. Just some final info... I weigh 190lbs and am 6'2" and the fit is fine for me.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: gbh
06-14-2005
     My 12ft Old Town pack canoe update. I bought a 2nd pack and left this one unmodified. I also own a third canoe a Souris River 18ft Wilderness, which I use for BWCAW trips and threesomes. My two packs fit great upside down in the 6 -1/2 ft long pickup truck box, which has a fiberglass topper. This gives me a total of 24 ft of canoe or 800 lbs of max floatation. An adult on the main seat with a Coleman back rest and a 1 inch thick closed foam hunting seat plus a young adult can sit on a throwable life preserver and a closed cell foam pad for a thwart backrest in the bow -- the low center of gravity in the bow gives you a more stable primary float. I use this dual canoe setup for up to four, e.g., two adults and two 12 year olds. We fish or sightsee, depending on the plan for the day.

I also prefer a longer bend paddle (12 degrees), I use a grey owl brand, and I feel it give me more speed, endurance, and steering control. If the front paddler wants to help paddle, I give them a youth size straight paddle and which I can also carry as a backup paddle. I figure 2 to 3 dips per side and control force will keep you on track to your chosen shore landmark, I do not use the j-stroke. I have paddled with current on 128 miles of the Mississippi River and maintained full control, even during one flood level stage. I like my packs 33 lbs weight and it portability, meaning no trailer. I recommend it for the purpose it is used for, after work fun.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: DMC
05-20-2005
     What a great little package. At 33lbs and 12', this little canoe has a lot going for it. It handles surprisingly well for such a short and light boat. I find it very stable whether fly fishing or just exploring. If getting there is half the fun, then you'll have a great time with this little jewel.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: kayakangler
10-18-2004
     I have wanted a solo canoe for quite a while. The Pack and a Mohawk Solo 14 were the two I was most interested in. I came across a used Pack at an excellent price and I snapped it up. I've had it a bit over a month and have really enjoyed it. I got it primarily for the light weight and ease of handling. When I go solo it's much easier to cartop and portage than my Penobscot or Loon, I just carry it over my shoulder. I had expected this little canoe to be relatively tippy with only a 32" beam but find it incredibly stable. Initial stability is excellent and its secondary stability is quite good. I can hold the canoe on its side near the gunwale quite easily from either the sitting or kneeling position. It is a highly maneuverable canoe. I've paddled it with both a single blade and a double. I prefer the single, though it means slow going and the canoe doesn't track as well. A double blade improves its speed and tracking significantly. I was using my 230 cm kayak paddle and found the paddle drips inside the boat annoying. A longer paddle would definitely help and I'll probably get a 240 cm or 250 cm just for this little canoe as it does respond much better with the double blade. With a 400 lb. capacity I can take along all I want for long day trips and fishing expeditions. It does oil can a little and the bilge flexes a bit with water flowing under the hull. Overall, this is a fun and easy to paddle little canoe. Great for exploring out of the way waters and fishing trips.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: Adam Henderson
04-02-2004
     I have taken the Old Town Pack down Indiana's Whitewater river many times, for many miles, in many varied conditions. At normal stage, the Whitewater offers everything from deep, strong flowing rapids in tight curves, to long, meandering, pond-like stretches, to rock-filled riffles. I have canoed the Whitewater in a Pack in very low stage, requiring tight manuevering to stay in floatable water, and I have also canoed it in a Pack at floodstage ... very dangerous, heavy water ... and at all stages in between. I have paddled peacefully all day in the Pack, fought to stay alive in a Pack, and even rescued three teenage girls pinned against a strainer in a Pack!

Having said all that, I can say that in no way did Old Town's Pack ever fail me. I never even had a spill in it ... but I am an experienced paddler. The Pack is not the perfect, dedicated design for any purpose ... but it is an excellent "piddling" boat ... suitable for all kinds of fun in the hands of a novice, and sufficient for most everything else in practiced hands. It's not a whitewater boat, nor a lake boat, nor a cruising boat ... it's an all around boat, tough as nails, lightweight, and fun.

If you're interested in a Pack, particularly if you don't know much about canoes or paddling, by all means buy one ... and don't let all the tech talk keep you from it. You'll never know the difference, you'll save money, and you'll have fun.

I give the Pack a solid 8 ... not a 10, because it's not ideal for everything, and not 6, 'cause it's not bad for anything. They do "oil can" some with heavy paddlers.

Paddle the Pack kneeling, with a long paddle, or a kayak paddle ... and enjoy.
Rating: 8 of 10

Submitted by: ---
09-08-2003
     Double Paddle Update!! I've owned my Pack for 3-1/2 years and have no regrets, aside from the wear and tear it is beginning to show because I use it too much. I've been using a double-bladed paddle, and have recommended its use, but I dislike the water dropping onto my feet and I missed the canoeing pace that a single-bladed paddle provides.

However, last week I picked up a 247 cm paddle that comes up to my chin and I was amazed. I can now use a single-bladed paddle with my Pack as the longer paddle allows me to actually spend time on my pulling storke moving the boat forward, unlike the shorter paddles which force me to spend most of my stroke on steering instead of keeping the boat moving along. Try it, you'll like it!
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: ---
08-13-2003
     I bought my Pack on a friend's recommendation and haven't been disappointed. Tough, lightweight, amazingly stable for its size, responsive and quite fast with a 2-bladed paddle. Not a whitewater boat but can handle surprisingly rough water and waves. Excels on small creeks and long portages. I am buying another for my wife!
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: ---
08-04-2003
     The most used boats of my fleet. I own two Packs which I use for basic instruction as well as my own relaxation. I removed the seats and put in nicely shaped thwarts. I play with all sorts of paddles; both single and double. Sometimes I kneel but mostly I sit. I have installed non -slip stair tread strips in the bottoms. They fit inside my van and are easy to carry around. Hull is highly efficient. I was going to buy a third but the price went up.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: grizzman
05-21-2003
     I recently purchased a Pack canoe after studying a number of models. The reviews I read here were the clincher for my decision. My first time out I thought I had made a terrible mistake. "Tippy" But as the previous reviewer stated, a couple more trips and I'm totally comfortable. Having owned a larger heavier canoe that was great when I had kids at home who wanted to go along but when they all went their own ways, the canoe sat for months as it was too heavy to load and I got tired of trying to find someone to go along. Now I drive to the parking area, put the Pack on my shoulder and walk to where I want to launch. No waiting in lines or not going to a particular place because the launch area is too far from the parking. I use a five and a half foot paddle and go anywhere I want but do agree, if you want speed, a kayak paddle would be better. I'm grateful for those who wrote the previous reviews for helping me make the right decision and to be able to be on the water again.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Scott
05-05-2003
     I've had mine for 2 years now and love it. It's a great, lightweight, one person canoe for recreational paddling, exploring and fishing. When you first try it out in the water you'll think it's incredably unstable and your bound to get wet. Relax and play around a bit, after 30 minute to an hour of getting used to it the first time you feel perfectly comfortable. (you'll only roll if your afraid and stiffen up) I've used mine on river, streams, small trout lakes and Boundary Waters canoe trips. It's my favorite of the 4 canoes that I own (an ancient fiberglass tank capable of crossing Lake Superior, a 15' Old Town, and a Winona Sundowner - my BWCA workhorse for more than a decade) for just going out an having fun paddling. Definately use a long kayak paddle, you sit up higher than a kayak so you need the extra reach or you'll bring a lot of water into the boat. It tracks amazingly well for a 12' canoe. And without packs in the Pack you won't have too much trouble keeping up with the Kevlar speedsters loaded down on a BWCA trip.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Jeff
04-22-2002
     Bought my Pack to replace an aluminium bass boat. Used the bass boat once last year due to the hassles involved getting it out and putting it in, and then getting it out again. Thought about a Stillwater 12, but thought it might be a little awkward to move around by myself, and then just wouldn't want the hassle. So, the wife thought I should try the Pack. Bought it from the local outfitter with a paddle and pads for the car. Read some of the reviews and went and bought a double bladed paddle. Use the Pack for fishing and just paddling around the local lakes. Love it, can't say enough about it. It is easy to move, easy to paddle, and easy to rock. Not really stable for a newbie, but it is soooo easy to use and launch and take out that I am extremely pleased with it. Haven't used the single paddle yet, but think I might try it as I get very wet with the double blades. By the way, glad I got the "take-apart" paddle, as when I am fishing, I take it apart and use one end to guide my if I drift a little. Next, need to buy and anchor bag. Thanks to all who submitted reviews on this wonderful craft. They really helped me decide.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: crowwing
02-18-2002
     I have had my "Pack" for about 5 years. Have used it from the BWCA to the gulf of Mexico. ANYONE who is considering this canoe can do no better! Don't even think about using this canoe without a Kayak paddle. I wouldn't trade mine for anything....I also own a 16ft. Penobscot.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: GBH
01-23-2002
     I customized my Royalex 12 ft old town pack canoe by making a wood bow passenger seat with woven nylon webbing and doing a factory mount. My 8-year-old grandson sits there. You do have to be careful if using a single paddle not to splash the bow passenger's back. On the center factory seat I mounted an aluminum plate with a "Wise" folding plastic chair bolted to it, with the thin padding on the back and seat. We have gone up to BWCA 2 times in this configuration, we stay for 3 nights. I weight 190 lbs and my grandson 90lbs. The portaging is a bit difficult, I fold and snap strap the seat, I rest seat edge on my life preserver. Our gear is stuffed in an East German army duffle bag with shoulder straps, upright in the stern and the rest in cascade river clear plastic tube bags. The lightweight and shallow draft has made this my favorite niche canoe. I use it extensively for fishing and paddling on city lakes. I do not care for the oil canning, but that is my trade off. I have gone 120 miles on the Mississippi river in it, I do trust it's stability and have not yet dumped, although I did lower the center seat to improve stability. I recommend it for it's convenience and for after workday fun.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: tapelgan
11-07-2001
     More on my Pack: tried the closet pole stiffener in the bottom, found it created a keel effect which made it VERY wobbly. 9' kayak paddle works great.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: ---
10-15-2001
     In reading the comments about the PACK mentioned above, I happened across one lightly used & priced to sell with my name on it. Added into the equation, was the web type backrest & 8 1/2' foot kayak paddle. Before I could get my wife to understand my mentality of buying yet another canoe,(we have an 18' Sawyer that I can't solo-load & portage well) we were off headed to a quiet stretch of river near our home for the maiden voyage. She forgave me after seeing the smile on my face once she shoved me off, (before I was ready).

I found the light weight to be such a surprise, the agility, and turning is fantastic. It did very well in gusty winds without too much bother thanks mostly in part to the kayak paddle keeping it in stride. Once the voyage was complete and back home, I packed my usual assortment of camping/fishing equipment into the little boat and found that it holds just the right amount for several days paddling.

If your not in a hurry, and have the patience to find the limitations of the design it's a terrific little canoe. After lugging around & soloing in my cruiser for so long, the PACK seems to be a hot-rod!
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: ---
09-05-2001
     I have had my Pack for two years and it has served me very well. It is mainly used for fishing on local (central MN) lakes. Yet, earlier this summer I took it to the BWCAW and had no problem tripping with it. The light weight makes it easy to put on and take off the Yakima rack system on my truck. It is a great canoe for an "old man" with a bad back. I highly recommend it.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Peggy
06-27-2001
     Have had my Pack for just a month now and have been very happy with it. Had a Clipper Prospector fiberglass tandem canoe 74lbs. but couldn't find a compatable paddling partner and couldn't manage it by myself, so sold it and got the Pack. It's the perfect weight for me to load onto the car and then haul down to the water with it thrown onto one shoulder. Have had a blast fishing out of it in the little local lakes around town here in Anchorage. Was just looking for a boat to dink around in on flat water and so far it's been near perfect. Only minor complaint is the tracking, while not bad, will try the kayak paddle as suggested by most others here. Love my boat!
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: ---
06-14-2001
     This is a great little canoe for ponds, small lakes, and slow rivers. The small size and weight makes it easy to load / unload. A new paddler may find that it feels a little tippy as they enter, but once in, it is very stable. Tracking is reasonable for such a short, wide canoe. Still, most beginner to intermediate paddlers will find that it is much easier to control using a kayak paddle.

The Pack is not a great boat for all types of water. It can be difficult to paddle in a heavy lake chop because the hull does not cut through waves, instead, it rides over the tops killing most of your forward momentum. It is also a challenge to paddle on swift rivers since its flat bottom makes it very difficult to lean the boat as you turn in and out of eddies. Waves over Class I will quickly fill it with water. A large float bag in front can help, but this is not a boat designed for running rapids.

In summary, this is a great boat for quiet water. If you are looking for a boat that can handle big lakes or swift rivers, you would be better off with a different model.
Rating: 8 of 10

Submitted by: tapelgan
05-30-2001
     These reviews sold me on the Pack, and I have NO regrets. I'm too old and stiff for a kayak any more, and can't lift my 66 lb Easy Rider up any more, so this is just right. I've used kayak blades twice, and am now looking for a 9 foot 2-piece. as shorter ones get too much water in the boat and up my sleeves. I'm also thinking of a foam saddle, but have no experience with them. Are they tricky to install, are they uncomfortable for hours of use? I'm also experimenting with the pole-in-bottom concept to reduce oilcanning.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Fisherman
03-26-2001
     This canoe is everything O.T. says it is and more, but it is NOT a beginners boat, you can't stand and piss off the side if you have not had a few years experience with more stable boats. It is still and probably always will be the best single seat fishing craft made. do use a kayak paddle when the wind is bad, and love paddling and working on my strokes when it's not. It gets me on ponds that most people only dream about fishing. NUFF SAID!!!
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Russ
10-03-2000
     The OT Pack has provided several surprises over the past few months. First of all, I bought the Pack because of its weight (33 pounds) and small size; something I could handle with advancing years and an aging back. The best surprise was the agility with which the canoe maneuvers on the water. On a quite pond or slow current, it can turn quickly and easily with a minimum of effort.

Going straight, as mentioned by many others before me, can be a different story. I have found that a single paddle, combined with a focused effort, can get the Pack to track fairly straight on quiet water. I plan to acquire a double bladed paddle shortly and develop some skill in propelling the Pack with a bit more grace and efficiency.

Another reviewer described the Pack as "a wiggly little boat." I have to agree, the Pack can be a little touchy, particularly at put-in or take-out. If you forget to balance across the top of the canoe or do not think about keeping a low center of gravity as you board, it is quite likely that you take a swim. This boat does will (re)teach you the subtleties of balance, poise, and patience.

All together the Pack is a fun little canoe. It provides a good fishing platform for ponds and lakes, it is easy to rack on top of my vehicle, and satisfies my need to get on the water. And that was exactly what I was looking for.
Rating: 8 of 10

Submitted by: Mike
08-16-2000
     This is from the perspective of a total novice, not used to "wiggly little boats" or any canoes at all. I got my Pack as a damaged/repaired markdown that was a great deal. I wanted something to get me into canoeing that I could put on and off the car by myself and also carry to the water. In that regard, it is wonderful. I believe if I can learn to paddle this little thing, I can paddle anything. There seems to be no secondary stability, and the initial stability is balanced on a knife edge. The boat may be a bit small for me (6'2, 250#).

I have found the best approach, is to sit on the seat with my legs crossed indian-fashion. There is not room under the seat for my size 13s, so kneeling is out. I will look into a foam saddle. The boat is highly maneuverable, but begs for a kayak paddle. Wind has minimal effect. My properly-sized single paddle (58cm) seems about 3"-4" too long, though, and I suspect a narrower-bladed beavertail will be best. Perhaps time will tell. In summary, a great little boat to get you out in the water, but don't make any sudden moves or hard paddle strokes! I suspect there are much better choices for the beginner.
Rating: 8 of 10

Submitted by: ---
07-19-2000
     I ran the technical class 3 St. Francis river in MO. Keeps right up with those kayakers. I'm 6'1" 185 lbs. I used a single bladed paddle. Floatation bags.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Dirk Woestenburg
05-18-2000
     I have owned a Pack canoe for the past six years and use it mainly for fishing. I removed the conventional seat and replaced it with one of those plastic patio chairs, available at any hardware store. I cut off the legs and bolted it in place with the seat right on the bottom of the hull. I paddle with a two piece kayak paddle. The result is a stable boat that's easy to paddle. There's plenty of room for my gear plus a fifty pound dog. This boat was buried under 23 feet of snow during a long winter. When I dug it out it had collapsed. Following the owner's manual, I left it out in the sun for a few days. Viola, it popped right back into its original shape.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: ---
05-15-2000
     This is a beautiful, uncomplicated little boat that will get you on the water. I have used my Pack since 1990 or 1991 on everything from the Little Bighorn in Montana to New England estuaries to the Gulf of Mexico (lived to tell about it, but this was stupid). The Pack has lots to recommend it, if you are accustomed to the nature of canoes. It is a pleasure to handle both in and out of the water and is just plain pretty. It is quiet, reasonably fast for a boat its size and incredibly agile: an accomplished paddler can sneak around in the most restricted swamps or streams in one. The short length, shallow hull and keel also make it very easy to handle in high winds. The same things that make it so wonderful for a good paddler are drawbacks for novice adult paddlers, though. It does not have very good secondary stability when heavily loaded and does not track that well. It also oil cans (hull bottom flexes back and forth) badly in a chop. Nevertheless, a quality kayak paddle takes care of the tracking problem in open water (a canoe paddle and a J-stroke is more than adequate in protected waters) and stability is not a big deal if you can stay low in the boat, avoid standing or turning around suddenly and use care in getting in or out of the boat. Keeping these things in mind, I would give it an 8 for someone not used to wiggly little boats and a 10 for skilled paddlers. I personally like mine so much that I am considering buying a sistership and mothballing it in case Old Town discontinues the model!
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: ---
04-30-2000
     Truly a play boat, I have other canoes but this one gets the nod when I want to just fool around. Handles okay when you get up to speed. If you don't know your J and C strokes when you start off you will sure want to learn them quickly with this canoe. I'm trying other paddles, shorter, narrower to cut down on the correction strokes. Don't put to much muscle into it or you'll do circles. I still love it.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: Bill
04-12-2000
     Bought a Pack on impulse two days ago. My nearest "outdoor" store also carries auto parts, which are in the back of the store. Walking past the boating section I fell in love on sight. I've always wanted a Wee Lassie and here was Old Town's version sitting prettily on display, calling out to me. My wife said my eyes bulged out like a little boy's! Two days later I get off work early and head for Northern California's famed Smith River, less than a mile from my home. I'd "retired" from kayaking years ago, but the river still calls to me; and I'm far too old to pack my OT Discovery 164's 80 lbs. by myself, so the Pack's light weight really appealed to me.

I agree with everything written here. The only disagreement appears to be in the tracking. Upriver in strong currents, eddies, and Class I rapids, I wasn't comfortable with a single paddle. When Old Town's promotional literature says it is: "well suited to the use of a double-bladed paddle" I believe they mean "highly recommended for river running." However, when I reached the river's estuary I found that I could get 2-3 strokes per side, more if I used a J-stroke. This compares with 3-4 strokes on my 164. Once I figured it out, it was great! And when I was done, I easily made the one-quarter mile portage back to my car, threw it on the roof, strapped it down, and went home.

A great boat. Buy one today. Forget about talking your wife or friend into going canoeing, just put it on top of your car and go! Scoring? 8 with one paddle; 10 with two!
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: TMC
02-13-2000
     I must beg to differ on the Pack tracking straight! It does if you use a J stroke on every dip of the paddle. I love using it in tight streams, this canoe turns on a dime and has its place but please! Keeps up with a kayak? I have a Sawyer cruiser that might do the trick, not a 13 foot pack. In fact I was able to purchase it from an hunter who bought it for squirrel hunting. He drilled 2 holes in the thwart for a U bolt for his gun barrel. He wanted to sell it because the "thing" just won't go straight. I love mine but be honest.
Rating: 8 of 10

Submitted by: Dan Creighton
06-18-1999
     I recently put my Old Town pack through it's paces on the Schuylkill River sojourn in PA. I found the boat to be extremely adgile while tracking well once up to speed. The PACK floated through much less water than did other canoes and kayaks in the group and I had little trouble keeping up with and even leading the better kayakers in the group. This boat can handle class III water with an experienced paddler in the boat. I used it sitting on the cane seat in class II water and had no problem with instability at all. For solo paddlers looking for a boat that can split the difference between a canoe and a kayak this one fits the bill perfectly. I truly love mine.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: PJF
06-01-1999
     I agree the Old Town Pack is great for mesing about but the flexibility of the hull bothered me. I cut a closet pole to about 8 ft, posisitioned it along the keel inside and after drilling appropriate receiving holes glued in 3/8" dowels from the pole up to both the thwart and seat. This added amazing stiffness to the hull and it performs much better.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: krenov
04-06-1999
     I bought the Pack based solely on its size. I already own a Penobscot but wanted a boat I could just grab and go.The pack has been great for this ,because of its light-weight and short length I just shove it in my van and head for the water. I only use it on flat water with a two-piece kayak paddle.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: Forrest Brownell
01-12-1999
     

Light (only 33 lb) and agile, this little boat is perfect for exploring small streams and remote ponds. Paddled from a kneeling position—folks with big feet will want to raise the single cane seat or replace it with a foam saddle—the Old Town Pack responds best to "traditional" technique. Practice your J- and C-strokes, get yourself a properly-sized beavertail paddle, and jump in. You'll discover that this short canoe tracks surprisingly well. And don't be fooled by the shallow, molded keel. The Pack maneuvers with ease and grace. You can turn the boat to either side in its own length—without once having to reach your paddle across the gunwale.

The Pack isn't a boat for whitewater, of course, though you can run Class I and even short, easy Class II stretches if you're careful. Nor is it an expedition craft, though it will carry food and gear for a week or more.

What is the Pack's forte, then? Messing about, just messing about—uncomplicated, undemanding exploration of out-of-the-way waters, near and far. The Water Rat in Kenneth Grahame's famous story was right. There's nothing half so much worth doing, and this is as good a boat as you'll find anywhere for doing it.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: R.BAREFOOT
12-31-1969
     Mr. Brownell was right, this is as good as it gets. I live only a hundred yards from the river. The boat is used mostly for fishing. I have a backrest and use a kayak paddle. It has led me through class 2 water, and has served as a floating bed on slow days. It's not a racer, or a whitewater boat. Just a good, No, make that great boat for Messing About.
Rating: 8 of 10

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